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    I'd like some advice on unhealthy 6 behaviour - is it 6w5 or 6w7?

    The 6 Problem: I am not as successful/happy in my life as I feel I should be.

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    • A rapid reevaluation of current standing in life.
    • A fervent searching for ways in which to change life - new home, new job, etc. An irrational blaming of other people ("I am unhappy because of how she is behaving." / "He is earning more than I am therefore I am doing something wrong." / "If you were my friend, you would do what I ask of you."" / "If you don't do what I suggest, it means we do not share the same goals.").
    • A creation of several mental scenarios based on dubious logic. Decisions that change completely when new input is received (Person A: You should do this!; Person B: No, you should do this!; Person C: No - do this!).
    • A valourisation of "strangers'' opinions over confidantes' advice.
    • The instigation of a very short time-frame in which to solve all problems.
    • Emotional blackmail of friends and emotional manipulation of people to sympathise with plight.

    I can give more info if needed but perhaps that will do. I'm tending towards 6w7 myself because of the rejection of solid logical analysis and the favouring of "stylistic success"(e.g. being seen as successful rather than feeling successful).

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    That girls are raped, that two boys knife a third,
    Were axioms to him, who'd never heard
    Of any world where promises were kept,
    Or one could weep because another wept.

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    either 6w7 or some kind of 2
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    Wow... doesn't sound too healthy. Sounds extraverted to me, I really don't relate to 'looking outside' to fix something within. Sounds like an extravert, and an extraverted feeler at that. You may need to divulge more of neutral personality traits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adasta View Post

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    • #1 A rapid reevaluation of current standing in life.
    • #2 A fervent searching for ways in which to change life - new home, new job, etc. An irrational blaming of other people ("I am unhappy because of how she is behaving." / "He is earning more than I am therefore I am doing something wrong." / "If you were my friend, you would do what I ask of you."" / "If you don't do what I suggest, it means we do not share the same goals.").
    • #3 A creation of several mental scenarios based on dubious logic. Decisions that change completely when new input is received (Person A: You should do this!; Person B: No, you should do this!; Person C: No - do this!).
    • #4 A valourisation of "strangers'' opinions over confidantes' advice.
    • #5 The instigation of a very short time-frame in which to solve all problems.
    • #6 Emotional blackmail of friends and emotional manipulation of people to sympathise with plight.
    i've been guilty of all this

    especially #2. "you would do what i ask of you".

    i really, really do not like it when things don't
    go my way. it's very difficult for me to take
    'no' as an answer, because asking for something
    is already difficult enough and especially if it's
    something i care about at that moment--even
    if it's stupid to the person i'm asking. and when
    it's dismissed, i've had a tendency to draw out
    that rejection and just start reevaluating everything
    while the other person thinks i blow it up...into
    something bigger than what it really is... but for
    me it's just shit that gets piled on and on and on
    ...and i really don't like being around very long if
    i feel constantly rejected.

    to counter most of this, i always try to prepare myself
    for a no. but it's taxing for me. a blinsided/unprepared
    "no" answer... is one of the most terrible things.

    i just wilt. like a sad tulip. droopy droopy.


    #3 - listening to other people too much (on how i should do things)
    just confuses me. but it's so easy for me to default on that
    sometimes and i don't really know why. it's a mix of me being
    lazy and not really caring about a lot of things, and i become
    complacent and not going for i want. for me it's a super red flag
    that something's wrong if i'm listening to too many people. it means
    i got lost somehow along the way.

    #4 manifests differently for me. i feel i'm more susceptible
    to getting lost if i listen too much to other people without
    having my own ideas to anchor myself. listening to other
    people is more of an exercise to see other viewpoints, but
    i don't necessarily apply them to myself. because i always
    think i know what's best for me.

    ---

    for the past few months i keep on wondering if i'm possibly
    a counterphobic 6 (i'm not). the motivations/stress/fears of
    6s don't apply to me. only certain behaviour descriptions,
    i always get sucked in to the books with the childhood
    backgrounds, i always relate to the 6's description.

    but i type myself as 8w7.
    every normal man must be tempted, at times,
    to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag,
    and begin slitting throats.
    h.l. mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post
    either 6w7 or some kind of 2
    I pretty much agree with this.
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    Thanks for the input. I'm pretty sure it's 6w7! Cheers
    That girls are raped, that two boys knife a third,
    Were axioms to him, who'd never heard
    Of any world where promises were kept,
    Or one could weep because another wept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adasta View Post
    I'd like some advice on unhealthy 6 behaviour - is it 6w5 or 6w7?

    The 6 Problem: I am not as successful/happy in my life as I feel I should be.

    Reaction:
    • A rapid reevaluation of current standing in life.
    • A fervent searching for ways in which to change life - new home, new job, etc. An irrational blaming of other people ("I am unhappy because of how she is behaving." / "He is earning more than I am therefore I am doing something wrong." / "If you were my friend, you would do what I ask of you."" / "If you don't do what I suggest, it means we do not share the same goals.").
    • A creation of several mental scenarios based on dubious logic. Decisions that change completely when new input is received (Person A: You should do this!; Person B: No, you should do this!; Person C: No - do this!).
    • A valourisation of "strangers'' opinions over confidantes' advice.
    • The instigation of a very short time-frame in which to solve all problems.
    • Emotional blackmail of friends and emotional manipulation of people to sympathise with plight.

    I can give more info if needed but perhaps that will do. I'm tending towards 6w7 myself because of the rejection of solid logical analysis and the favouring of "stylistic success"(e.g. being seen as successful rather than feeling successful).

    Cheers.
    Hum. I'm a 6w7 and i totally relate to this.
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