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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    2s get overlooked because they are weak and overly dependent on people. their overlly altruistic tendencies often keep them from achieving power, money or success. they're around it'sjust that no one wants to be one
    The way that you wrote this, from the beginning, states that 2's in general have altruistic tendencies, which I am supposing that you mean they don't expect to get paid for their services. Altruism is a renunciation of the self, and 2's don't give up the self.... Upon reading in my enneagram books about 2's, they EXPECT payment in some form for their giving (pretty much why I avoid a lot of them irl.... I don't need to be given to, and I have no interest in being indebted to someone. Two's can be demanding in that way lol, and I can prove that just by looking at my mil). Being a 6w5 who is very independent leads me to see easily that my mil expects alot in return for services, that I expect very little in-return for. Some 2w3's tend to think that their very presence can be enough to demand some sort of payment in return. Very few human beings are truly altruistic. LoL...... as far as dependency, I agree that people-as-a-whole agree that interdependency is healthy and dependency is not, so you are also assuming here that 2's are mostly dependent, and therefore, unhealthy. They are no more unhealthy as a whole than any other type. Imo, yes, all people are overly-dependent, and I perhaps should've clarified that on a personal level, I think they are. Dependency can be seen from different perspectives, of course.

    As for the rest of the things you claim you never stated, you said them in the way you wrote the sentence. Unspoken. And some of it, apparently you can't see the reasoning behind it, but that is expected.

    As far as health and weakness go, a teeter-tottery 4 can be broken just as easily as a 2.... people looking for victims look for those with poor values and with unhealthy dispositions, things they can easily prey on and manipulate, and use. And those things are what weaken us, not personality type.

    Furthermore, I totally disagree that 8's don't get hired as managers. That's funny to me, considering that I live with one. Corporations can thrive with 8 managers.
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    that elfboy does a lot of shit talking. Only 8s are so eager to put others down. It figures too because 2s are really good at making 8s look bad.

    And whether or not a 2 is overlooked is generally up to the 2. Sometimes going unnoticed has its perks. Dealing with people takes finesse, and 2s have lots of it. Some 2s are complete attention whores.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    exactly, but it starts with being selfish. being altruistic is like giving away your seeds before you collect the harvest. selfishness is sustainable, selflessness needs to everyone becoming poor. giving is well and good, but giving because you WANT to, not because you feel like you have to.
    to a degree that you are not compromising and undermining yourself, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    2s get overlooked because they are weak and overly dependent on people. their overlly altruistic tendencies often keep them from achieving power, money or success. they're around it'sjust that no one wants to be one
    Spoken like a true 8 who knows nothing of what it means to be a 2, or altruistic for that matter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post
    Spoken like a true 8 who knows nothing of what it means to be a 2, or altruistic for that matter
    He's a 4...... 8's are generally more realistic than elfboy. He's in lala-land lol.....
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    he's being realistic, or at least trying to be. But no, 4s are not nearly as crass.
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    I feel like I have a harder time finding 3s than 2s. And for that matter, I never really find any other type 1s in person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post
    he's being realistic, or at least trying to be. But no, 4s are not nearly as crass.
    He claims he is a 4w3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    that is SO not true. I know tons of 2s. the rarest types are 5, 4 and 8
    My personal experience is that I'm swimming in 4s and 5s. Have I somehow wound up in a deviant pool of acquaintances?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICUP View Post
    He claims he is a 4w3.
    He's also wrong a lot.
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