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[Type 9] Someone help me find the best descriptions for 9w1 with variant stackings

Thalassa

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I know these descriptions exist, they actually describe how sx/sp or sp/sx manifests in each enneagram number combined with wings, like they're very holistic descriptions.

I JUST CAN'T REMEMBER WHERE I FOUND THEM.

9w1 sp/sx and 9w1 sx/sp, please please please, if you know where they are.
 

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Thank you! That's very helpful!

But I swear a couple of months ago I stumbled across descriptions that explicitly said how Sexual 9w1 and Self-Pres 9w1 manifest, cohesively, with the wing, not just Sexual 9 or Self-Pres 9.

Like I know this because I showed them to someone who is a 9, and also I found descriptions on how Sexual 4w3 act, etc.
 

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You're welcome :)

Unfortunately I have not heard of any descriptions that specific, although I too would like to know where they are. When I get around to it, I'll do a comprehensive search for them and then link you to the source. :)
 

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Okay, well the 9w1 in question found this,

"9w1 sx/sp

This typewingstack embodies the passion of sloth very well. They desire personal development and enlightenment. However, their sloth is always one step ahead of them. They know what they gotta do, but can't summon the motivation to do it. They get more in touch with..."

and it's fucking incomplete. I thought I could find it but then I figured the easiest thing to do would be to ask other people.
 

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Perhaps this?

sp/sx 9w1

This typewingstack most clearly embodies Jung's Introverted Sensation style. They are the eyes and fingers of the universe examining itself. They are most aware of how everyone is connected indirectly through the swamps of psychic muck. They have a sense of adventure and view the world as a playground where they can move beyond the biases of their own ego by learning about the world around them. They learn about themselves by learning about others and they want to grasp every interesting person they encounter at the level of the unconscious....engagement isn't exactly necessary but rather they have an extrasensory decoder for the subconscious... They aren't burdened by social obligations, so their inner aesthetic is a daily source of nourishment. Their internal repose slows things down so they can get a better look and feel for the world around them....they see the textures that others miss and can articulate the texture in a way that taps into the electrical charge of reality. Their convictions and ideals are more personal than sp/so, but also unshakeable. They cobble together their own basic truths without the drag of social responsibility and embrace philosophies as flexible as necessary to accommodate their personal epiphanies...they believe that words and language are imperfect and childish tools to communicate these truths and epiphanies. They feel truth can only be hinted at through aesthetics such as art or film or music. They are drawn to and fascinated by the language of the unspoken and believe this is where all the intentions of life spring.... They view words as primitive and utilitarian, and attune themselves to the subconscious realm (under the spoken word) where it is impossible for people to hide their inner being....They can resemble 5w4s in their grasp for subtlety, but they are working at a more elemental level where nothing is purely true, but nothing is purely not true. All expression is a distortion of the truth that relates to the origin of the cosmos. Every act pertains to "god" "creation" the "singularity." Even people's masks and false propositions are distortions of this truth. They are more interested in the elemental forces that move events rather than the event itself. They have access to archetypes in the unconscious where mythological battles can be hashed out while keeping the 9 disconnected from their instinct. They have the freedom to play around with absurdity and imagine extreme 'violence' and destruction against the elements they have merged with in their imagination. They view life as a series of inevitabilities...They take a passive role in relationships as if they were fully merged with the universe's agenda to let all things happen as they must.


sx/sp 9w1

This typewingstack embodies the passion of sloth very well. They desire personal development and enlightenment. However, their sloth is always one step ahead of them. They know what they gotta do, but can't summon the motivation to do it. They get more in touch with their own willpower later on in life. They do very well in fields that involve listening and connection so long as they can get their judgmental 1 wing under control. They have less drive for comfort and more drive for intense experiences. These 9s can sit around and have long conversations with people they hardly know in the strangest places and lose themselves in ripples only the 9 is aware of. Their fractured identities can also manifest in their living environment....i.e. some parts could be on the warm and bright side while other parts are plain and unattended to. More than other 9w1s, this 9w1 can virtually run on a fast and scattered autopilot for long periods of time with virtually no productive activity. Depression and self-destruction is not uncommon. They are most attuned to the sense that underneath all the things they know they have to do and attain, there is an essential nothingness at the core of existence, even of their own 'identity', and this only further locks them into their narcolepsy. Afterall, becoming awake would bring them to terms with this nothingness and that's not something they want to confront. They don't usually have a social network to fall back on. They idealize connections to such an extent that finding a friend is like searching for a needle in a haystack.... They can wind up feeling completely numb, lost, lonely, and longing for a blissful sense of completion that can only come from a relationship. Perhaps this is why no 9w1 is more pushy and assertive when it comes to merging. When they do, it's as if they are totally blind to any boundary between themselves and the other. As they get older, they can grow more guarded and less excited/open to the flow of experience.


here
 

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THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!! :hug:

You rock! :banana:
 

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Perhaps this?

sp/sx 9w1

This typewingstack most clearly embodies Jung's Introverted Sensation style. They are the eyes and fingers of the universe examining itself. They are most aware of how everyone is connected indirectly through the swamps of psychic muck. They have a sense of adventure and view the world as a playground where they can move beyond the biases of their own ego by learning about the world around them. They learn about themselves by learning about others and they want to grasp every interesting person they encounter at the level of the unconscious....engagement isn't exactly necessary but rather they have an extrasensory decoder for the subconscious... They aren't burdened by social obligations, so their inner aesthetic is a daily source of nourishment. Their internal repose slows things down so they can get a better look and feel for the world around them....they see the textures that others miss and can articulate the texture in a way that taps into the electrical charge of reality. Their convictions and ideals are more personal than sp/so, but also unshakeable. They cobble together their own basic truths without the drag of social responsibility and embrace philosophies as flexible as necessary to accommodate their personal epiphanies...they believe that words and language are imperfect and childish tools to communicate these truths and epiphanies. They feel truth can only be hinted at through aesthetics such as art or film or music. They are drawn to and fascinated by the language of the unspoken and believe this is where all the intentions of life spring.... They view words as primitive and utilitarian, and attune themselves to the subconscious realm (under the spoken word) where it is impossible for people to hide their inner being....They can resemble 5w4s in their grasp for subtlety, but they are working at a more elemental level where nothing is purely true, but nothing is purely not true. All expression is a distortion of the truth that relates to the origin of the cosmos. Every act pertains to "god" "creation" the "singularity." Even people's masks and false propositions are distortions of this truth. They are more interested in the elemental forces that move events rather than the event itself. They have access to archetypes in the unconscious where mythological battles can be hashed out while keeping the 9 disconnected from their instinct. They have the freedom to play around with absurdity and imagine extreme 'violence' and destruction against the elements they have merged with in their imagination. They view life as a series of inevitabilities...They take a passive role in relationships as if they were fully merged with the universe's agenda to let all things happen as they must.


sx/sp 9w1

This typewingstack embodies the passion of sloth very well. They desire personal development and enlightenment. However, their sloth is always one step ahead of them. They know what they gotta do, but can't summon the motivation to do it. They get more in touch with their own willpower later on in life. They do very well in fields that involve listening and connection so long as they can get their judgmental 1 wing under control. They have less drive for comfort and more drive for intense experiences. These 9s can sit around and have long conversations with people they hardly know in the strangest places and lose themselves in ripples only the 9 is aware of. Their fractured identities can also manifest in their living environment....i.e. some parts could be on the warm and bright side while other parts are plain and unattended to. More than other 9w1s, this 9w1 can virtually run on a fast and scattered autopilot for long periods of time with virtually no productive activity. Depression and self-destruction is not uncommon. They are most attuned to the sense that underneath all the things they know they have to do and attain, there is an essential nothingness at the core of existence, even of their own 'identity', and this only further locks them into their narcolepsy. Afterall, becoming awake would bring them to terms with this nothingness and that's not something they want to confront. They don't usually have a social network to fall back on. They idealize connections to such an extent that finding a friend is like searching for a needle in a haystack.... They can wind up feeling completely numb, lost, lonely, and longing for a blissful sense of completion that can only come from a relationship. Perhaps this is why no 9w1 is more pushy and assertive when it comes to merging. When they do, it's as if they are totally blind to any boundary between themselves and the other. As they get older, they can grow more guarded and less excited/open to the flow of experience.


here

That's it, but it turns out after following that link he's actually sx/so, not sx/sp.

Thanks!!!

I wish they had them for all the enneagram numbers (?) :huh:
 

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sx/sp 9w1

This typewingstack embodies the passion of sloth very well. They desire personal development and enlightenment. However, their sloth is always one step ahead of them. They know what they gotta do, but can't summon the motivation to do it. They get more in touch with their own willpower later on in life. They do very well in fields that involve listening and connection so long as they can get their judgmental 1 wing under control. They have less drive for comfort and more drive for intense experiences. These 9s can sit around and have long conversations with people they hardly know in the strangest places and lose themselves in ripples only the 9 is aware of. Their fractured identities can also manifest in their living environment....i.e. some parts could be on the warm and bright side while other parts are plain and unattended to. More than other 9w1s, this 9w1 can virtually run on a fast and scattered autopilot for long periods of time with virtually no productive activity. Depression and self-destruction is not uncommon. They are most attuned to the sense that underneath all the things they know they have to do and attain, there is an essential nothingness at the core of existence, even of their own 'identity', and this only further locks them into their narcolepsy. Afterall, becoming awake would bring them to terms with this nothingness and that's not something they want to confront. They don't usually have a social network to fall back on. They idealize connections to such an extent that finding a friend is like searching for a needle in a haystack.... They can wind up feeling completely numb, lost, lonely, and longing for a blissful sense of completion that can only come from a relationship. Perhaps this is why no 9w1 is more pushy and assertive when it comes to merging. When they do, it's as if they are totally blind to any boundary between themselves and the other. As they get older, they can grow more guarded and less excited/open to the flow of experience.

Hey, that sounds like me... but it does sound like all of the negatives though.
 

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9w1 Sp/Sx
George Lucas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMoCP4jZLxk
Roger Ebert http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmnYCSwt2Js
Ladanian Tomlinson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ik-GKn9P3XA
James Lipton http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D8QaYlxxVk
David Gilmour http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq-4KdhfHZ0&playnext=1&list=PLDBDD6F0AA5096E6A
Dido http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=59Qwt5dc7cg
Dave Draper http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mm-IEHyrQGg
Jason Schwartzman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdRC9oDeVjk
Brett Anderson http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=t5hdkMgEkQo
Hayden Christainsen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdXJoDjcYJE
Evanna Lynch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxBuaaxNnlE
Laura Marling http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtIBXg6HwkY
William Fitzsimmons http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3D40UWx7Ko
David Fauvre http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-30FVKQ_ryE
Judit Polgar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z6h_kmqh2M
Liz Durrett http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6a7AeHdvr8
Vic Chesnutt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvYj07B8TyA
Elizabeth Wagele http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVBpAd_70c4
Tracy Chapman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGld3wV9n2Y
Liv Ullman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U537EvnLQR4
Luol Deng http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WBCxZSoygM
Maartin van Rossem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoBKBhPqN3c
Michael Parkes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEc-8J7O0o4

Fictional
Charlie's girlfriend(Numbers)

9w1 Sx/Sp
Eric Clapton http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHoU3w-IVL8
Audrey Hepburn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQLEQpWhSI8
Mira Sorvino http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXx1c00kfIg
Sophie Marceau http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqxuYA1KZFE
Carl Jung http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOxlZm2AU4o
Norah Jones http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R0eovEL3uA
Vanessa Carlton http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LHSGiHXpMo
Michelle Branch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kC1XJcyFnU
Kate Beckinsale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUdBGCZGzZ0
J K Rowling http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JOxJ3j_58EI
Aimee Mann http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dyVynsZeCTI
Yoko Ono http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMwGy429L_U
Anjelica Huston http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XczPCz9YvFU
Fran Healy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpsrQPbQKnQ
Richard Ashcroft http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCEmjtUPlzU
Cat Stevens http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcgCdn8I8kU
Bela Tarr http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZCQ0s2ZGew
Feist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PLAj1akTwQ
Shirin Neshat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEneXMXXSXw
James Taylor http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqp3qfJ2LJc
Oksana Grigorieva http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIOTVZX7-xs
Charlotte Gainsbourg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnWuTuA96jY
Mikhail Tal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEObwChS2O4
Rory Gallagher http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfCWIFvtrx0
Sandy Denny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rd_gMrmf6g
Jackson Browne http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq8QYYFufNs
Ramses Shaffy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M1KgNc7-3Y

Fictional
Luke Skywalker (Star Wars)
 

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Perhaps this?

sp/sx 9w1

This typewingstack most clearly embodies Jung's Introverted Sensation style. They are the eyes and fingers of the universe examining itself. They are most aware of how everyone is connected indirectly through the swamps of psychic muck. They have a sense of adventure and view the world as a playground where they can move beyond the biases of their own ego by learning about the world around them. They learn about themselves by learning about others and they want to grasp every interesting person they encounter at the level of the unconscious....engagement isn't exactly necessary but rather they have an extrasensory decoder for the subconscious... They aren't burdened by social obligations, so their inner aesthetic is a daily source of nourishment. Their internal repose slows things down so they can get a better look and feel for the world around them....they see the textures that others miss and can articulate the texture in a way that taps into the electrical charge of reality. Their convictions and ideals are more personal than sp/so, but also unshakeable. They cobble together their own basic truths without the drag of social responsibility and embrace philosophies as flexible as necessary to accommodate their personal epiphanies...they believe that words and language are imperfect and childish tools to communicate these truths and epiphanies. They feel truth can only be hinted at through aesthetics such as art or film or music. They are drawn to and fascinated by the language of the unspoken and believe this is where all the intentions of life spring.... They view words as primitive and utilitarian, and attune themselves to the subconscious realm (under the spoken word) where it is impossible for people to hide their inner being....They can resemble 5w4s in their grasp for subtlety, but they are working at a more elemental level where nothing is purely true, but nothing is purely not true. All expression is a distortion of the truth that relates to the origin of the cosmos. Every act pertains to "god" "creation" the "singularity." Even people's masks and false propositions are distortions of this truth. They are more interested in the elemental forces that move events rather than the event itself. They have access to archetypes in the unconscious where mythological battles can be hashed out while keeping the 9 disconnected from their instinct. They have the freedom to play around with absurdity and imagine extreme 'violence' and destruction against the elements they have merged with in their imagination. They view life as a series of inevitabilities...They take a passive role in relationships as if they were fully merged with the universe's agenda to let all things happen as they must.


sx/sp 9w1

This typewingstack embodies the passion of sloth very well. They desire personal development and enlightenment. However, their sloth is always one step ahead of them. They know what they gotta do, but can't summon the motivation to do it. They get more in touch with their own willpower later on in life. They do very well in fields that involve listening and connection so long as they can get their judgmental 1 wing under control. They have less drive for comfort and more drive for intense experiences. These 9s can sit around and have long conversations with people they hardly know in the strangest places and lose themselves in ripples only the 9 is aware of. Their fractured identities can also manifest in their living environment....i.e. some parts could be on the warm and bright side while other parts are plain and unattended to. More than other 9w1s, this 9w1 can virtually run on a fast and scattered autopilot for long periods of time with virtually no productive activity. Depression and self-destruction is not uncommon. They are most attuned to the sense that underneath all the things they know they have to do and attain, there is an essential nothingness at the core of existence, even of their own 'identity', and this only further locks them into their narcolepsy. Afterall, becoming awake would bring them to terms with this nothingness and that's not something they want to confront. They don't usually have a social network to fall back on. They idealize connections to such an extent that finding a friend is like searching for a needle in a haystack.... They can wind up feeling completely numb, lost, lonely, and longing for a blissful sense of completion that can only come from a relationship. Perhaps this is why no 9w1 is more pushy and assertive when it comes to merging. When they do, it's as if they are totally blind to any boundary between themselves and the other. As they get older, they can grow more guarded and less excited/open to the flow of experience.


here

That sounds pretty accurate.
 

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Hello to all from the crypt. I am Tomb...an enneagram type expert.

This is my first time posting on the forum, and it is terrific to see people with a serious interest in the e. I will release more of Bliss Stream's dynamic descriptions for type, wing, stacks in the future.

I've also got a 1200+ exemplar typelist with youtube clips on my site. I'm really, really proud of this list. It's a great list. Unlike the list that was dropped off on this board months ago, my list is better because it gets more of the core fixations and stackings right (in my humble opinion). I've also gotten contributions from some of the best typers around and am about to launch 100 new exemplars. I love it. And you'll love it too.

Tomb
 
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Hello to all from the crypt. I am Tomb...an enneagram type expert.

This is my first time posting on the forum, and it is terrific to see people with a serious interest in the e. I will release more of Bliss Stream's dynamic descriptions for type, wing, stacks in the future.

I've also got a 1200+ exemplar typelist with youtube clips on my site. I'm really, really proud of this list. It's a great list. Unlike the list that was dropped off on this board months ago, my list is better because it gets more of the core fixations and stackings right (in my humble opinion). I've also gotten contributions from some of the best typers around and am about to launch 100 new exemplars. I love it. And you'll love it too.

Tomb

Cool! Psyched for those bliss streams (whatever that is), etc. Even though I kind of doubt that your opinion of yourself is humble... :D

welcome!
 
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