i wish i could remember the exact point at which is struck me that you may be a 4w3, because i know i've been harboring that thought for a while now - maybe a month or so before you switched your sig to 4. it surprised me when you did (and admittedly gave me a dose of self-absorbed pride, lol) - given, of course, i don't know you IRL and i'm certainly no expert, but i'll share my current mind-tinkerings and let you see what you think.
you have a strong personality, i don't think there is anyone who can question that. certainly i can see a good deal of 8 in the way you are direct and power-oriented. however, most 8s do not exhibit nearly the degree of self-reflection and self-orientation that i think you do. to an 8 first, the main concern is being in control of their environment, and they have a very external orientation; their conflict seems mainly to be with the outside world. when i read your posts and see how you change your self-info, i don't get the sense that your conflict is mainly external. it seems that more of your conflict is internal, but you project it outwardly, and it manifests in your exchanges with the world.
when i first posted in this thread, i mentioned that i felt you were high-energy. i still think this is true. you seem dynamic to me. colorful. dramatic in the good sense of the term. it's not about body energy; you have a big identity. you have very clear tastes - you demonstrate to the forum what you like and what you do not. it's almost 3ish in nature... the thing is, an 8 really doesn't have much motivation to do that. consider kyuuei, an ENFP 8. she's pretty clear about herself, but there's no additional fantasy to it. your blog - "elfboy, chronicles of the prince of light" - there's little 8 about that title (i think blog titles are significant, because they're what you choose to describe reflecting on your life). it's not direct and in charge. it's a beautiful image though, it conjures fantasy. image. image triad. your name, too - what you choose to define yourself to the forum as. i'm not saying there couldn't be an 8 who chooses to call himself elfboy, but it's really not a name that speaks of 8. elves are beautiful, aristocratic, gentle, dreamy. and "boy" - kind of contradicts independence and assertion. it seems more 2, 4, 6, 7, or 9 than 1, 3, 5, or 8. "sword of the tempest" is also very fantastical and aesthetic in nature, though it does conjure an image of power. yet it's not straight-forward like 8.
let me steal from enneagraminstitute for a moment.
4. The Sensitive, Introspective type: Expressive, Dramatic, Self-Absorbed, and Temperamental
check, check, check, check, check and check.
8. The Powerful, Dominating Type: Self-Confident, Decisive, Willful, and Confrontational
i don't really see powerful, or dominating... i know that you talk about being these things IRL but i don't see them on the forum (you do make some less than sensitive remarks occasionally, lol, but those are always quite taste-oriented), check, check, check, ehh not really confrontational.
and as for more negative qualities - i don't see you doing direct put-downs, shitty abrasive remarks, etc. you're just kinda self-absorbed. i was just poking around threads and read this remark about you in that 3w4 thread -
which i think is true. i suspect more than a dominating, straight-talking 8, or a glossy, driven 3, or a conscientious, fastidious 1w9 (i don't see this one in you very much at all, not in the way you present yourself on the forum, at least), you're an expressive, creative, self-indulgent 4w3 aristocrat. i wanted to be a 4w3 for a while, actually, i think it's a beautiful typing, aesthetic and elegant... but i think that perhaps in 4ishness fantasy with a side of 3ish drive to excel, you see the traits of 8 and 1 that are really in you and that you would like to be more like, also, and fashion yourself in that way. like your blog - elfboy, prince of light - it conjures power and morality - and you are able to project those things about you that are facets of your personality. hence type confusion. but coco really hit the nail on the head. you seem much too aware to actually be an 8, and too openly expressive to actually be a 1. if anything it seems like your 1 attributes are more out of desire to be someone who appears like a 1 - upright, moral, a crusader, a prince of light. but not the negative qualities of a 1 - i don't see those in you.
Originally Posted by Coco
what's particularly satisfying to me about that typing for you is that it resolves the issue of narcissism, which you clearly possess to some extent, but feels "put on", unlike 3's or 8's. certainly 8 could be second in your tritype, and as such it would reflect your greater degree of assertion and power-orientation.
4w3: The Aristocrat
These people are more self-conscious and aware of issues regarding their self-worth and how they are coming across to others than 4w5s. They want recognition for themselves and their work, and they typically put more effort into everything having to do with their self-presentation and related matters. They are more practical than 4w5, but also more extravagant - loving refinement, culture, and sophistication - typically seeing themselves as high class, elegant, and concerned with social acceptance. They can be competitive and disdainful of others; grandiosity and narcissism are expressed more openly and directly.
but of course this is all just conjecture
Originally Posted by Fuzzcrossed