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    Hiya. So, I've been thinking a lot about how the - seemingly contradictory - type Nine with a One wing operates - how "detached" they are, how much they worry, et cetera. As such, I think it might be worthwhile to study some fictional examples. If you could give me some, it would be greatly appreciated!

    For starters, I've seen Marge from The Simpsons typed as a 9w1 ISFJ. Seems plausible, but I have to watch more of the show to find out. I could also mention Miss Honey from Matilda, though I've only seen the movie...

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    Well, first things first, I am not a worrier, not in the slightest. Perhaps you're thinking more 1w9 than 9w1?

    Both of the characters you mention I can see possibly being 9s, although I see 1 more in both of them, maybe it's the J vs P difference? Also, watched the Mosquito Coast last night and Helen Mirren's character, "Mother", seemed very 9-like, getting to extremely unhealthy 9 at the end where she is unwilling to see that her husband is completely destroying her family's life. She will not assert herself against him even though it is more than warranted.

    9 is a pretty versatile type, I think. I think it's easy- just like with any type- to focus on the more stereotypical representation of it. None of the characters mentioned are real people (obviously), so they're pretty one-dimensional. Guess I'm just saying you have to watch it with typing of this sort because it seems overly simplistic/ tends to reinforce stereotypes of the types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brainheart View Post
    Well, first things first, I am not a worrier, not in the slightest. Perhaps you're thinking more 1w9 than 9w1?

    Both of the characters you mention I can see possibly being 9s, although I see 1 more in both of them, maybe it's the J vs P difference? Also, watched the Mosquito Coast last night and Helen Mirren's character, "Mother", seemed very 9-like, getting to extremely unhealthy 9 at the end where she is unwilling to see that her husband is completely destroying her family's life. She will not assert herself against him even though it is more than warranted.

    9 is a pretty versatile type, I think. I think it's easy- just like with any type- to focus on the more stereotypical representation of it. None of the characters mentioned are real people (obviously), so they're pretty one-dimensional. Guess I'm just saying you have to watch it with typing of this sort because it seems overly simplistic/ tends to reinforce stereotypes of the types.
    Well, quite a few INFJs in this very forum claim they're 9w1s, so I don't think the difference lies in J/P. And, from what I've read in threads in the Enneagram Institute forum, 9w1s are usually more "cerebral" than 9w8s, who are more "grounded". And, well, while Nines are usually pretty passive, Ichazo (I think) says they acquire the traits of an unhealthy Six during moments of stress. I can see where you're coming from, though.

    It's just, well, I kind of imagine 1w9 as being more contentious, like Mr. Spock or Prosecutor Edgeworth from the Ace Attorney series. Neither of the characters I mentioned seems contentious - Miss Honey's main fault is that she refuses to act against her boss's tyranny due to her low self-esteem, thus enabling said boss to continue oppressing others.

    To be frank, though, this is also kind of a part of my ongoing quest to find my type, but I figured a thread like this could be a good reference for future forumers.

    Anyway, thanks for responding, brainheart! You rock, srsly.

    EDIT: Hey, speaking of one-dimensonal, how about Chance the Gardener from Being There as a 9w1 caricature?

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    9w1 characters:
    Botan- Yu Yu Hakusho
    Yukito- Card Captor Sakura
    Yukito- Tsubasa Chronicle
    Bastian Bux- The Neverending Story
    The Little Prince
    Edit: I almost forgot Rafiki from the Lion King

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    9w1 characters:
    Botan- Yu Yu Hakusho
    Yukito- Card Captor Sakura
    Yukito- Tsubasa Chronicle
    Bastian Bux- The Neverending Story
    The Little Prince
    Edit: I almost forgot Rafiki from the Lion King
    Thanks for replying!

    These sound about right, especially Yukito and Rafiki. I recently reread The Little Prince, and I'm unsure whether he's a 9w1 or a 4w3. Or maybe I don't usually associate Type Nine with walking into a complete stranger and going all "Draw me a sheep! No good, another one! Another one, dammit!"

    Then again, it could be a tritype thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    Thanks for replying!

    These sound about right, especially Yukito and Rafiki. I recently reread The Little Prince, and I'm unsure whether he's a 9w1 or a 4w3. Or maybe I don't usually associate Type Nine with walking into a complete stranger and going all "Draw me a sheep! No good, another one! Another one, dammit!"

    Then again, it could be a tritype thing...
    perhaps the little prince is a 9w8 or 8w9

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    perhaps the little prince is a 9w8 or 8w9
    He could be a 9w8... He's very much a free spirit, and has a protective streak (toward the rose), though he knows quite well when people are taking advantage of him. I could see an argument for 9w1, though, due to his "lecture" on the importance of daily duties (trimming his weeds, stirring his volcanoes, et cetera). That could be a Six in his subtype, though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    He could be a 9w8... He's very much a free spirit, and has a protective streak (toward the rose), though he knows quite well when people are taking advantage of him. I could see an argument for 9w1, though, due to his "lecture" on the importance of daily duties (trimming his weeds, stirring his volcanoes, et cetera). That could be a Six in his subtype, though...
    I think his head triad type is 7. optmistic, adventurous, fun. he also comes across as fearless and confident, but in an INFP 10 year old sort of way. perhaps he is a 9 with w8 and w1. I would guess his tritype is 9-2-7 or 9-4-7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    I think his head triad type is 7. optmistic, adventurous, fun. he also comes across as fearless and confident, but in an INFP 10 year old sort of way. perhaps he is a 9 with w8 and w1. I would guess his tritype is 9-2-7 or 9-4-7
    What, you mean with balanced wings? I guess that could happen...

    Going bach to 9w1 characters, how about Belle from Beauty and the Beast? She could be a 9w8, but she's so... airy. To the point where the whole town sings about it.

    Look, there she goes, that girl is strange, no question
    Dazed and distracted, can't you tell?
    Never part of any crowd
    'Cause her head's up on some cloud
    No denying she's a funny girl, that Belle...

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    Other possible examples:

    Alphonse Elric (Fullmetal Alchemist)
    Dr. Ernest Menville (Death Becomes Her)
    Annie (The First Wives Club) - could be a 9w8, but she's so repressed...
    Luna Lovegood (Harry Potter series)
    Miyuki Takara (Lucky Star)
    Tsukasa Hiiragi (Lucky Star)
    Chad (Bleach)

    Whaddya think?

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