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    Lets not forget though, that type isn't set in stone during childhood, and shyness can easily be mistaken for introversion (I know this from experience).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage Idealist View Post
    Lets not forget though, that type isn't set in stone during childhood, and shyness can easily be mistaken for introversion (I know this from experience).
    actually MBTI is set in stone extremely early and introversion/extroversion even eariler. your 1st function begins to really develop around at age 7 and your second around 12 or 13. one's mbti type is set around 15-17.

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    Originally posted by Elfboy
    actually MBTI is set in stone extremely early and introversion/extroversion even eariler. your 1st function begins to really develop around at age 7 and your second around 12 or 13. one's mbti type is set around 15-17.
    Actually, I have been entertaining the notion that functions can be conciously manipulated, so that one could concivably alter ones type through traiining and using different functions. So for me, the idea of a personlity completely set in stone and unchangable seems absurd, but that's just my theory on the matter.

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    i saay fuck descriptions, motivations are important. you are most likely an 8.

    INFP 8 is quite common (after the most common combinations for INFP, of course).

    Read "Sytpg"s post, or he changed his nickname bofore leaving, cant remember, Moeity maybe. He was ENFP-8, but some said INFP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petra Pan View Post
    i saay fuck descriptions, motivations are important. you are most likely an 8.
    INFP 8 is quite common (after the most common combinations for INFP, of course).

    Read "Sytpg"s post, or he changed his nickname bofore leaving, cant remember, Moeity maybe. He was ENFP-8, but some said INFP.
    seriously. case in point, yourself. all the descriptions of type 3 I've read are terrible. they make them sound shallow, heartless, arrogant and manipulative, but you're obviously very insightful and introspective and I don't see any ego in your posts

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    No INFP 8's. You need to be consistently in that mode to be 8. And Fi doesn't always push outwards. It's more inclined to communicate it's views with Ne. When INFP does get kind of 8, it's like some over-the-edge kind of thing. They're only going to make that push when it's of great importance (in it's mind) rather than everyday concerns like it'd be in an 8. If someone had that much desire to regulate, they're probably extroverts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    No INFP 8's. You need to be consistently in that mode to be 8. And Fi doesn't always push outwards. It's more inclined to communicate it's views with Ne. When INFP does get kind of 8, it's like some over-the-edge kind of thing. They're only going to make that push when it's of great importance (in it's mind) rather than everyday concerns like it'd be in an 8. If someone had that much desire to regulate, they're probably extroverts.
    +1

    It reminds me of my INFP friend who insists she's a 3. I have never seen her be remotely 3-ish. I'd say she's a 9 who's had three moments. It's easy to think of those 3 (or in my case 8) moments as being 'you', because that's probably when you were on top of your game, when you seemingly had it together, but that's the exception, not the rule. My struggles aren't 8 struggles, just as her struggles aren't 3 struggles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brainheart View Post
    +1

    It reminds me of my INFP friend who insists she's a 3. I have never seen her be remotely 3-ish. I'd say she's a 9 who's had three moments. It's easy to think of those 3 (or in my case 8) moments as being 'you', because that's probably when you were on top of your game, when you seemingly had it together, but that's the exception, not the rule. My struggles aren't 8 struggles, just as her struggles aren't 3 struggles.
    just because you don't have 8 struggles doesn't mean other INFPs couldn't. for instance, there are a number of ISFP 8s, same dominant function

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    No INFP 8's. You need to be consistently in that mode to be 8. And Fi doesn't always push outwards. It's more inclined to communicate it's views with Ne. When INFP does get kind of 8, it's like some over-the-edge kind of thing. They're only going to make that push when it's of great importance (in it's mind) rather than everyday concerns like it'd be in an 8. If someone had that much desire to regulate, they're probably extroverts.
    you clearly have little understanding of type 8 (as do most people who aren't 8s)
    - I am constantly 8, but that doesn't mean I go bossing people around all day. lol 8s are bossy when (or when they preceive) people are their way. if you are in an 8s way, they are going to remove you.
    - 8 is not about regulation. 8 is about minimizing restraints on oneself and . regulation is what unhealthy 8s do in an attempt at a "I need to control my environment so it doesn't control me" mentality. the basic need is freedom and control over YOUR domain, not other peoples'. problems occur when 8s don't know what their domain is.
    - actually, a lot of 8s, self included absolutely HATE controlling other people and get pissed off as hell when other people are controlling
    - 8s are adamant about what they care about, but not about things they don't care about
    - any MBTI type can be any Enneatype. there is no direct correlation between cognition and motivation/fear.
    - if you really want an 8 to like you, just leave them alone and let them do their thing. that's when they're trully happy, not from bossing people around all day

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    Quote Originally Posted by brainheart View Post
    +1

    It reminds me of my INFP friend who insists she's a 3. I have never seen her be remotely 3-ish. I'd say she's a 9 who's had three moments. It's easy to think of those 3 (or in my case 8) moments as being 'you', because that's probably when you were on top of your game, when you seemingly had it together, but that's the exception, not the rule. My struggles aren't 8 struggles, just as her struggles aren't 3 struggles.

    I can not comment on your friend because obviously I dont know her but if her struggles arent 3-ish of course she isnt 3, but if she insist she is I believe in her judgement and probably you have a picture of what are 3s like in your head that is just what it is - in ur head.

    9 and 3 look soooo different that its mostly only possible to mistype as 9 if you are disintegrated 3, than mistype as 3.
    If someone identifies as a 3 he most likely is bc its self-deceitful type and if 3 opens her eyes enough to see herself in 3, she started the honest route

    My siser who is ESTJ-3 just recenly, after a yr of making fun of my hobby grew fascination into ennagram and sees herself in 3, which she didnt while she ignored her self deception

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