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    Quote Originally Posted by LiLyLemon View Post

    CuriousFeeling, ditto this. Especially the longing for a brother or sister. Btw is your user name from a PJ Harvey song?
    If I didn't have a such a strong bond with my family, I think I'd be lost in life. My username isn't from a PJ Harvey song. It's actually based on the song and album A Curious Feeling by Tony Banks. I just figured the username worked well because it shows that I'm a blend of intellectualism (curiosity) and romanticism (feeling).
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    all of these stories are very interesting. really puts type 4's into perspective. distanced families... lack of long term friendships... well it's no wonder we feel alienated, or alien like. :sad:
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyAnnaJoan View Post
    all of these stories are very interesting. really puts type 4's into perspective. distanced families... lack of long term friendships... well it's no wonder we feel alienated, or alien like. :sad:
    Yeah, it's a bit lonely, especially when you feel like a wandering gypsy going from one group of people to the next. But creative productivity is what helps keep the soul alive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousFeeling View Post
    Yeah, it's a bit lonely, especially when you feel like a wandering gypsy going from one group of people to the next. But creative productivity is what helps keep the soul alive.
    Now THIS I can relate to. My relationship with my family is great, but I've always been on the periphery of any group of clique I've been associated with. That's good, in a way, especially as far as cliques go, but sometimes I tire of feeling like an outsider... an accepted outsider, but an outsider no less.... sigh....
    Masquerading as a normal person day after day is exhausting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquarelle99 View Post
    Now THIS I can relate to. My relationship with my family is great, but I've always been on the periphery of any group of clique I've been associated with. That's good, in a way, especially as far as cliques go, but sometimes I tire of feeling like an outsider... an accepted outsider, but an outsider no less.... sigh....
    Yeah, when I was in high school, took me a while to find my group, and when I did, most of my friends were two years older than me, and then they graduated. In my own grade level, I felt a bit out of place... didn't quite find my niche, although people were nice to me. I never belonged to a clique, but I got to get to know a lot of people. Still, I had hoped that I had a group of friends I grew up with and maintained that friendship and closeness for a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousFeeling View Post
    Yeah, it's a bit lonely, especially when you feel like a wandering gypsy going from one group of people to the next. But creative productivity is what helps keep the soul alive.
    i like that you used "wandering gypsy" here. definitely a relateable feeling. i always considered myself a nomad, anyways, due to the way i grew up--always moving, with no real "home." and wandering gypsy is a good way to describe how i am with social groups as well. i still continue to move from clique to clique.
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    I used to think that the typical 4 family did not fit me. Later, though, I realized that I grew up as an only child in a single parent household. In a way, I was abandoned by one parent, and forced to grow up a bit faster than the other children as I became less of a dependent child and more of a cooperative near-spouse figure in my family. Having to be by myself a lot, my imagination became quite wild, though it's lessened a little over the years.

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    I don't know. I think it's all perspective. I think we as fours are more intuitive to our differences, our separation from others. We may have the same environment growing up as other types, but we notice what we notice, while they notice what they notice. And we respond in our way, they respond in their way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousFeeling View Post
    General question I've got... do all type 4's experience issues with relationships with their parents/family? Could a type 4's individualism/imagination stem from another source other than parental issues, and more from their birth order (i.e. growing up as an only child, establishing the fact that they are different from most families that have more than 1 child, and having to keep themselves entertained)? I have a theory that a type 4 in a normal family life, might have been encouraged to be an individual, despite the fact that their family's core values might have been different from those that had to keep up with the latest trends, yet when they enter the real world, they feel misunderstood by those that don't share those values and don't have the same level of imagination or emotional sensitivity as they do. They yearn to have a sense of true family in the social sense... to find their core group of friends that they connect with. This type 4 might find it difficult to have a close connection with others because they are fiercely independent and true to their values, and do not make compromises. They are moody and temperamental if something doesn't work out to their ideals. They might find it better to do independent work, rather than do group work in school. If there is a death in this type of type 4's family, this would definitely set forth the traditional type 4 yearning. They will yearn for someone to fill the void for the person that is missing in their life.

    My theory could be off, but I'd like to see what you guys think. I hypothesize that type 4 children might experience parental strain, but if they grow up in a loving environment that encourages their individualism, they might also have type 4 traits as well.

    Just curious.

    Okay, just read this. That for sure was a big part of my orientation growing up. We were very much encouraged to be individuals. I felt a connection with my siblings I didn't have with others. I made sense in my family, not in the rest of the world. But as I got older I began to feel separate from my family as well. Probably didn't help that my father saw strong feelings as a weakness, and here I am, a four...

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    Growing up my family were not close at all. We get on well now, but I think the damage was done. We lived separate lives and I rarely emerged from my bedroom to be honest. I felt seriously alienated and misunderstood from a very young age so I guess I'd fit that (if slightly cliched) 4 description!

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