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    Any others around?

    Here is a description

    Nine:Self-pres/Sexual

    This subtype is self-effacing also, but is generally more assertive. They may be the subtype of Nine which is most aware of the boundaries between themselves and others and at the same time, possibly the most frustrated when those boundaries are violated. They can be aware of being walked over and they might even be aware of the anger it causes, but they become frustrated with their seeming inability to control this pattern. This is true, to some degree, of all Nines, but with the self-pres/sexual instinctual stacking, there seems to be a complex and interesting balance between the withdrawing energy caused by the dominant self-pres instinct and the assertive energy of the sexual instinct. This combination seems to raise consciousness of this dynamic.

    Getting healthy for this subtype, and for all Nines, involves becoming aware of this dynamic and realizing they do have the power to control their boundaries. Part of this must come from the realization on the part of the Nine that they have invited this overstepping of their boundaries from others by not defining them.
    Close relationships will usually work or not for this subtype depending on how well they deal with this issue.

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    Him!
    [youtube=FnMLGkj91Og]Dirty Harry - Do you feel lucky?[/youtube]

    ISTP 9w8 sp/sx. (And probably Clint Eastwood himself is of this type).
    EsTP 6w7 Sx/Sp

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    E=60% S=55% T=70% P=80%

    "I don't believe in guilt, I only believe in living on impulses"

    "Stereotypes about personality and gender turn out to be fairly accurate: ... On the binary Myers-Briggs measure, the thinking-feeling breakdown is about 30/70 for women versus 60/40 for men." ~ Bryan Caplan

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    That's funny! I'm ISFP 9w8 sp/sx.

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    That's why I posted it. I often feel you and Clint as pretty close and similar actually.
    EsTP 6w7 Sx/Sp

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    E=60% S=55% T=70% P=80%

    "I don't believe in guilt, I only believe in living on impulses"

    "Stereotypes about personality and gender turn out to be fairly accurate: ... On the binary Myers-Briggs measure, the thinking-feeling breakdown is about 30/70 for women versus 60/40 for men." ~ Bryan Caplan

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    That's pretty cool. Am I the only 9 sp/sx on typc?

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    I don't know. By the way, Obélix is an ISFP 9w8 sp/sx, him.

    EsTP 6w7 Sx/Sp

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    E=60% S=55% T=70% P=80%

    "I don't believe in guilt, I only believe in living on impulses"

    "Stereotypes about personality and gender turn out to be fairly accurate: ... On the binary Myers-Briggs measure, the thinking-feeling breakdown is about 30/70 for women versus 60/40 for men." ~ Bryan Caplan

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    Cool! Read and loved all the Asterix and Obelix books as a kid.

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    These are some descriptions I haven't seen.

    9w8 sp/sx

    They have a stronger line to 6. They are the less trusting 9w8s and the more rugged...Puts comfort above all else and may lack a sense of fashion as a result. They have an exaggerated sense for the harmony between themselves and nature /animals, even wild animals. More transgressive of social norms than the other 9w8s. They have a natural affinity for the wilderness and also have the can-do attitude to chart a course towards a more simple lifestyle. Romance is where this 9w8's life is turned upside down from everything being manageable and rational to intense and stormy. Very low-maintenance partners.

    Bliss Stream's New Descriptions for the 9w8 Stackings

    9w8 sp/so

    They make good leaders based on their ability for grand strategy and a talent for co-operation. They excel at man-management and can handle/balance/maneuver a variety of personalities. Their minds are flexible and they improvise well under pressure without losing their strategic aims… Others may be surprised to know these 9s possess such qualities, for this stack enjoys being underestimated because it keeps others off balance.

    Their modesty, amiability, and ability to express a bigger vision in simple and straightforward language is often enough to exercise charm over most people who come in contact with them, making them suitable for positions of power and responsibility that require a cool and collected disposition. Their modesty, if not the result of disassociation, often belies a true confidence in themselves and others. There’s nothing grandiose or pretentious about them….Through their line to Six, they can virtually lose themselves in preparations for contingencies and future outlines. This type needs more downtime to refresh themselves and relax.

    They enjoy their leisure time as a way to keep themselves on an even keel. This style has both mental and physical discipline.... Despite the majority of them being introverts, they have a very externalized and pragmatic focus balanced off by ideals of conduct they try to abide by. They measure themselves to individuals of the past that have some subjective value to them. Their minds are factual and they know their areas of interest much deeper than they let on. They aren’t big personalities, but work their willpower without fanfare...

    9w8 sp/sx

    They have a stronger line to 6. They are the less trusting 9w8s and the more rugged...Puts comfort above all else and may lack a sense of fashion as a result. They have an exaggerated sense for the harmony between themselves and nature /animals, even wild animals. More transgressive of social norms than the other 9w8s. They have a natural affinity for the wilderness and also have the can-do attitude to chart a course towards a more simple lifestyle. Romance is where this 9w8's life is turned upside down from everything being manageable and rational to intense and stormy. Very low-maintenance partners.

    9w8 so/sp

    Often make good mentors for the lost, wayward or delinquent. Reliable individuals with good leadership ability but may wind up in supporting positions because their diversity of energy can make it harder to define themselves firmly...they have a sense of never being known in spite of their successes which they only wind up reframing as luck. May not be an intellectual in the traditional sense of the word but is the most intellectually-inclined 9w8...they often have a draw to sociology or physics and can make good problem-solvers. This can come with an absent-minded quality...Even if they aren't sociologists in the official sense, they are naturals at tuning into the voice of the faces in the crowd. They like the faces that go uncelebrated. Can justify their actions based on other people's responses and assess whether a choice is right or not by whether it gives them more sense of belonging. When it comes to group or political involvement, they'll dabble enough to feel like they belong to a larger whole while declining any hard-core involvement. Most inclined 9w8 to handle conflict diplomatically, in hopes of bringing others to a peaceful resolution.

    9w8 so/sx

    They have the most difficulty knowing who they are or what they value. They look for confirmation of their existence through their connections with others. They may seek out positions of leadership or influence to enhance the acknowledgement others give them. 9w8 most inclined to feel they are being taken advantage of when they find themselves doing and saying things they neither want to do nor say. When this happens, as it often does, they shift gears back down into a low energy passive pattern, trying to numb themselves out from the abuse they feel has been put upon them and their social image. When feelings of this abuse resurface, they shift gears into a more angry response and overset their boundaries.

    They will even stay silent for longer periods of time in a group just to amplify how badly they want to be listened to, heard and respected when they do finally decide to say something. It's important to them, because this 9 knows all too well how easy it is for them to lose their opinion in the sea of many opinions and agendas of those around them. This 9w8 may even expect others to look to them as the leader due to some of their presence and charisma; however, being the decisive leader is not something they can sustain for too long due to the stress of perceived agendas by others, most of which the 9 blows out of proportion... No other type on the enneagram can relate to the degree with which this type thinks it doesn't exist. They could jump off a building in broad daylight and feel like nobody would notice.

    9w8 sx/so

    This typewingstack is sometimes diva-esque. May often escape problems by creating a fairyland of beauty and dreams, reflecting how wonderful their life "really" is. Feels the 9's sense of anonymity clashing with the sx-instincts confidence and desire to escape it. Positive self-view, sometimes boldly confident, self-reliant, and won't judge thesmelves by the standards of society. The idea of a soul mate is somebody who can understand them without any words. May develop themselves as a sex symbol, can often come to symbolize whatever qualities they wish to brand themselves with...devoted to charity causes. unlike so/sx, this stacking not only has the ability to make friends with anybody they come in contact with but to entrance people.

    They have a natural instinct for what fits them best in terms of outer appearance, but neither through imitation of others nor adherence to fashion but simply an enhancement of their natural qualities. They may express an unsureness of themselves by trying to vary their appearance but they learn through trial and error on how to look natural without seeming contrived. They want their outer appearance to flow with the grain of their features. They don't want to use outer appearance as a mask to hide behind. Even though they will be receptive to newer fashions, once they find a basic style that suits them, it won’t change much in spite of current fashions.

    They can play host for others or groups. They commit totally to people. They give their trust totally, and hurt totally in the violation of their trust. They will then avoid the source of their pain to let their wounds heal and try again. It’s not that they are blindly trusting of others but they realize for practicality sake that’s the best way to find out whether someone is trustworthy or not. They can certainly suffer disillusionment….

    Romantic and vulnerable... Unions between themselves and others are the epic moments of their life and give them a position of power over life. They are the most inclined 9w8 to merge with aggressive or larger than life people who have a love for life and strength the 9 can admire. Most confessional in relationships and look for people with common emotional experience. They like to break through the others’ inner conflicts. Will put their feelings before morals when it comes to relationships and can fall into libertine patterns. Views sex as private and special. Gives the act an air of mystery and exalts, as opposed to degrade or cheapen, the role that sex plays throughout their life. Doesn’t link vulgarity with attraction. Beauty and mystery go hand in hand with sexuality...and they feel that exposure is less attractive than the right piece of clothing.

    Attracted to openness and strength. Ambitious and use their merging ability to meet the right people to advance themselves but will draw a line about how far they will go. Sometimes reframe the result of their own hyper-merging abilities with others as strong premonitions or eerie abilities of perception.

    9w8 sx/sp

    This 9 stack receives life without hesitation. They exert very little control over their emotional lives and prefer to give themselves total freedom to experience real responses and feelings. They can have an electricity about them that is both simple and regal, being able to unconsciously convey who they are without saying much.

    They don't try to walk or move in an artificial way. They often have a great sense of humour and will push themselves to enjoy the same things as their significant others. Playfulness is especially high with this stack. But they are more rigid about who they give their energy to and are drawn to people who have similar experiences as them. This type can relate to common experience at a nonverbal level, giving them room to create a sense of harmony with others even with those who speak different languages.

    They also have a savvy business sense. And in spite of their liberal attitudes, they can have an old-fashioned approach to raising family and will give more than themselves to those they care about, often finding it very difficult to break away...Can feel oppressed, as they don't often get to do what they want for long periods of time. Sense of being reincarnated in life all the time, redefining themselves out of necessity.

    This type views their realness as having a large potential to reach people who are going through the same problems. Just knowing that gives them more room to be a little 'crazy.' Because they know that they truly aren't alone in their 'craziness.' Fear of pretending in relatonships, just going through the motions. Loses a sense of identity by giving so much of their openness and love to family or lover. It causes them to be overly sensitive to rejection, so constantly looking to do the perfect thing, which can inevitably lead to a break down. The loss of a relationship can devastate them. They may break down into a zombie-like state for years upon end and ultimately do the inevitable unless they can find something to keep them sane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    That's pretty cool. Am I the only 9 sp/sx on typc?
    You might be.

    I mean, I don't even know of any 9w1 SX/SOs around here.

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    I relate to pieces of all of these. I think the sp primary descriptions fit me best but are quite closely matched with the sx primary descriptions. I only see so in secondary or tertiary roles in these descriptions, which matches my previous (brief) research with ennegram.
    Don't know how much it'll bend til it breaks.

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