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    Default 9s that are (I)NT(P)s?

    I think my bf is definitely a 9w1, and he says that he is definitely an INTP.
    I thougt for long that he can't be an NT because I associated a lot of traits from 9s with what I though to be the ISFP-personality (not knowing much about the enneagramm). But after having read something more in depth about the 9s, I think what I have experienced as very "untypical" behaviour of an INTP can be perfectly explained with him being a 9...
    so...I'd just like to know if there are any (I)NT(P)s who are 9s and who have had similar experiences (being more social than other INTs or being more unassertive, harmony-oriented than other NTs etc.)?
    I'd really be thankful for any kind of insight.......

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    Yeah there are a couple of those weirdos on here. And if I take a test it's usually my second or third highest score.

    They seem to be a far more "go with the flow" kind of type, whereas I am a neurotic mess.

    Not really sure what you're looking for to be honest.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfjillhalfjack View Post
    I thougt for long that he can't be an NT because I associated a lot of traits from 9s with what I though to be the ISFP-personality (not knowing much about the enneagramm).
    Don't do that. The Enneagram and the MBTI are different systems, not ever made to account for each other, not concerned with the same personality attributes, not structure in a securely compatible way.

    Enneagram type does not tell you MB type, and MB type does not tell you Enneagram type.

    Now, getting that out of the way, there may, just by undesigned coincidence, be a rough correlation between types (it couldn't be anything other than rough). The MBTI and Enneagram amy to a small extent overlap on things that are closely related. Knowing that, I can't say I'd find a type 9 INTP very strange. Maybe one doesn't think of an NT as being sensitive to conflict, but why not? We can acknowledge that an INTP can be terribly neurotic (so type 6, people say) but can't fear of conflict be from a neurosis itself? Anyhow, it's all more complicated than that anyway.

    My enneagram type is more unconventional for an INTP than his, and I can think of a few that would be stranger than mine (2, 3, 7). You you said you expected ISFP. So you can acknowledge why Ji dominance would work for a 9 (and for some reason you think Se is more 9 than Ne?), so all in all, Ti is even that big a leap from Fi.

    So in the end it adds up to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    I can say I'd find a type 9 INTP very strange.
    I'll fight you!

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    FYI: There are a few intp folks on here who have identified as type 9 enneagram.

    (Look above this post for one ...)
    "Remember always that you not only have the right to be an individual, you have an obligation to be one."
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    other things become ugly.
    When people see some things as good,
    other things become bad."
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    I'll fight you!
    That's embarrassing. That was supposed to be a "can't". It's too easy to mean opposite things with one or two characters in this language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    That's embarrassing. That was supposed to be a "can't". It's too easy to mean opposite things with one or two characters in this language.
    Awww... we can still fight.

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    My old best friend was an INTP 9w1, so be sure they exist I don't think all traits of 9 fit her, but the overall description is definitely her. She was extremely laid-back and easy-going. Being with her always calmed me down and cheered me up. I wouldn't describe her as a harmony-seeker, but unassertive she certainly was, and extremely so. She was rather just watching people with amusement and didn't even try to get involved with them, as if she was fine with being "invisible". In fact her parents were always putting their own needs before hers and they treated her as if she didn't even have any personal feelings and wishes, so she sort of forgot how to express them altogether. It definitely didn't mean she didn't have them, though.
    Her head hung down
    Gazed at earth, finally keen,
    As the rabbit at the stoat,
    Till the earth was sky,
    Sky that was green,
    And brown clouds passed
    Like chestnut leaves along the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space_Oddity View Post
    My old best friend was an INTP 9w1, so be sure they exist I don't think all traits of 9 fit her, but the overall description is definitely her. She was extremely laid-back and easy-going. Being with her always calmed me down and cheered me up. I wouldn't describe her as a harmony-seeker, but unassertive she certainly was, and extremely so. She was rather just watching people with amusement and didn't even try to get involved with them, as if she was fine with being "invisible". In fact her parents were always putting their own needs before hers and they treated her as if she didn't even have any personal feelings and wishes, so she sort of forgot how to express them altogether. It definitely didn't mean she didn't have them, though.
    That really sound a lot like my bf...... he is not as harmony-oriented as I am, but still very conflict avoiding (?)..... my bf's parents never talked about wishes, feelings, motivations etc. with him, and this in combination with his unassertiveness is some kind of hard to me (my parents ALWAYS talked about everything...way too much even)....I try to get him out of his shell, but it's kind of hard sometimes. because he also doesn't mind being "invisible" . however, sometimes I want to be asked, too....I am assertive, but also have an responding-communication-style.....
    however, he is also extremely easy-going which is a good contrast and helps me to come down very often .....

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