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    Quote Originally Posted by brainheart View Post
    I really don't know... I do know, however that we are a very different animal, and she's more extroverted than I am. She says she is an INFP because her values are the most important thing to her vs an ENFP, where it would be ideas, possibilities.
    Um, has she been put in situations where she was pretty much forced to take control?

    That's why I tested 8 at one time, I think. But it's not normal or preferable for me. I will do it, though. And how.

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    I think so. She is the primary breadwinner in her family combined with being the second oldest in a family of five kids. Conversely, I am the youngest of seven kids- four years younger than the closest in age, and I don't have a job, and I don't need to get one. I imagine the fact that she has always held this position of responsibility (and she has an unhealthy 4 mom) affects her motivations.

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    I am a type 8 and an INFP. I've tested both consistently. Perhaps a rare combination?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemistry View Post
    I am a type 8 and an INFP. I've tested both consistently. Perhaps a rare combination?
    Testing consistently isn't good enough. You also have to study the type descriptions themselves to verify that the tests were correct.

    I would think that an INFP who seems like an 8 would really be a 4w3, the aggressive 4. Which wing of the 8 do you identify with?
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    I've read several Enneagram books ("The Essential Enneagram", "Wisdom of the Enneagram", "Nine Lenses on the World", etc), spent some time in both a workshop and with a counselor who leads Enneagram classes who, when I question whether I was an 8 or not, said there was no question. I've taken the Myers-Briggs tests repeatedly with the same result INFP - originally, when I took it at 18 (I'm 34), I came out as n ENFJ/P, but a few years later and since I've consistently tested as an INFP (pretty light on the P, though at something like 16%, but 44% at the E). I've been thinking about the wings, and I feel that I identify with both 7 and 9 equally, although the strongest influence for me seems to be my point connections to 5 and 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemistry View Post
    I've read several Enneagram books ("The Essential Enneagram", "Wisdom of the Enneagram", "Nine Lenses on the World", etc), spent some time in both a workshop and with a counselor who leads Enneagram classes who, when I question whether I was an 8 or not, said there was no question. I've taken the Myers-Briggs tests repeatedly with the same result INFP - originally, when I took it at 18 (I'm 34), I came out as n ENFJ/P, but a few years later and since I've consistently tested as an INFP (pretty light on the P, though at something like 16%, but 44% at the E). I've been thinking about the wings, and I feel that I identify with both 7 and 9 equally, although the strongest influence for me seems to be my point connections to 5 and 2.
    I don't understand. 16% P makes you an INFP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemistry View Post
    I've read several Enneagram books ("The Essential Enneagram", "Wisdom of the Enneagram", "Nine Lenses on the World", etc), spent some time in both a workshop and with a counselor who leads Enneagram classes who, when I question whether I was an 8 or not, said there was no question.
    I've heard an Enneagram teacher say something similar to a friend of mine. "If you're not a 9, I'll take down my shingle!"
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    I don't mean that the score of 16% P means I'm an INFP, but rather that the NF portions were consistent, but it was the E/I and J/P that changed when I took the test later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemistry View Post
    I don't mean that the score of 16% P means I'm an INFP, but rather that the NF portions were consistent, but it was the E/I and J/P that changed when I took the test later.
    "I came out as n ENFJ/P, but a few years later and since I've consistently tested as an INFP (pretty light on the P, though at something like 16%, but 44% at the E)."

    Confusing.
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