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    Quote Originally Posted by speculative View Post
    It's supposedly just as possible for 4s as for any other type. In a vacuum, all types have an equal chance of being healthy. However, because each culture is pre-disposed to value certain traits and characteristics, I would argue that in reality this cannot possibly be the case.
    I'm not aware of wanting to be different, necessarily. Just authentic. It's easy to come to conflate the two, especially as you say, in certain cultural environments. Authentic expression is just important to me in principle and in general. I loathe formulaic arts and entertainment, not because it's popular, but because for example it takes what are sometimes good lyrics and melodies, and wastes them by setting them to a structure, instrumentation and even kind of voice and style of singing that aren't chosen because they're appropriate and add anything artistically valuable but just because they're what seem to be working during that period to shift units. I loathe them because they cheat people, especially those who are rarely exposed to anything else, out of what could be a far more evocative piece if all the elements worked together to express a coherent mood or theme. It's insulting.

    This song for example: Red. Could have been fantastic. But what the hell is that drum doing. That doesn't need to be there at all and ruins it. And why are there strings repeating the melody, and why are they so gentle? It works against the weary, desperate tones produced by other elements. These are the songs that should be getting covered, the ones that aren't done right the first time.

    This is the attitude I have to most aspects of life. I don't want the artistic integrity of anything to be compromised, including myself. "If you can't be a work of art, wear a work of art." Some people like everything that can express something, to express it honestly and completely, including the self. It can be hard to accept that you can be multi-faceted and still authentic. The fact that you feel different at different times is therefore distressing and confusing. That's happened to me. I didn't understand that rather than forcing myself to be one thing all the time, I should let myself explore everything and every way to be and feel, because it IS all still me, and couldn't be anything else. Your overall identity is harder to observe that way, because at any one time you're like one piece of a mosaic trying to see how you fit into the big picture and what the big picture is. You have to have faith that there is one, and that all the pieces will fall together if you let them. Like this.

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    I want to be different, but I'm a type two...I can't stand the popular kids or the conformists!
    "In order for the light to shine so brightly, the darkness must be present." -Francis Bacon

    "No matter how dark the moment, love and hope are always possible." -George Chakiris

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    No, not wanting to be different, but rather feeling different, at least that is how it is for me.

    Regarding being ronery...

    Yes, I'm so fucking alone it's ridiculous.

    The closest I feel to people are to artists whom I've never met.

    Will someone ever get me?

    I mean, really really get me?!!?

    Doubtful.

    How very ironic, we are these hardcore romantics who feel so very alone. Wait, perhaps that is not very ironic at all. :P

    And, on that note...

    YouTube - Melody Gardot - Who will comfort me (Live)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SillySapienne View Post
    No, not wanting to be different, but rather feeling different, at least that is how it is for me.

    Regarding being ronery...

    Yes, I'm so fucking alone it's ridiculous.

    The closest I feel to people are to artists whom I've never met.

    Will someone ever get me?

    I mean, really really get me?!!?

    Doubtful.

    How very ironic, we are these hardcore romantics who feel so very alone. Wait, perhaps that is not very ironic at all. :P

    And, on that note...

    YouTube - Melody Gardot - Who will comfort me (Live)


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    Thoughts For The Day make me want to stab something. Why is that?

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    I came over to the dark side ^^
    Moi is definitely a four, after looking at the options more.
    Crazy moi. It fits.
    "In order for the light to shine so brightly, the darkness must be present." -Francis Bacon

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    4s rock the casbah. I demand we have a party, and bring all the emotional baggage we want with us.
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    Some of the most interesting in people in the world are 4s. I totally agree we should have a party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    Some of the most interesting in people in the world are 4s.
    that's because fucked up people are always interesting

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