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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    When I was a child I had a morbid and moral obsession with the Holocaust, sociopathy and torture, and as I grew older I became evermore affected by what appears/appeared to be the massive suffering inherent to life, both human and animal alike.
    It's quite possible your Jewish background had something to do with that. It's quite similar when Irish people reflect upon the Potato Famine, or Blacks upon slavery, or Ukrainians on their famine. It helps establish a more personal connection with the more universal concern for human suffering, as you stated.

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    I have tested 4 on a number of occasions, however, I have also tested 7 which I know seems poles apart... anyone else tested this way also. I identify with alot of what has been posted, especially the morbid obsession with suffering... It's like a strange dichtomoy as you wish to prevent it and wollow in it all at the same time
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    I have tested 4 on a number of occasions, however, I have also tested 7 which I know seems poles apart... anyone else tested this way also.
    I'm a 4 who's oh-so-borderline 9. I usually get 4, but my 9 is intensely strong as well, so...

    I wouldn't say I like suffering, but I am fascinated by it...in that, "hey, if I can understand it, I can prevent it" kind of way. I can sort of see the envy thing, too, because there's always that vibe when you see people you admire and think, "Ooh, I wish I looked/acted/thought like that." And I'll admit, it can happen pretty darn often. But I like to think it's just us being in-tune with the goodness in the people around us, to make up for always being reminded of the melancholy of life. They balance each other out, y'know?

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    As a four, I have to say that everyone hates me, and for me life is like a porno; no matter what happens, I get screwed by varying degrees from a quickie to a full on orgy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aguanile View Post
    I have watched documentaries about it, read books about it and visited the Holocaust museum twice. I don't know why I so interested in it. The whole concept boggles my mind.
    Suffering is transcendent. It bestows meaning to life.

    Maybe the Holocaust is interesting because it forces us to peel back the skin of this world to reveal the pain and suffering that is woven into the very fabric of existence. To live we try to ignore it because there is no resolution against the horror. Only accommodation and eventually transcendence.

    As we go about our little lives, Chaos and pain hides around every corner, tinging the beautiful whole with blood and darkness.
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    Suffering is transcendent. It bestows meaning to life.

    Maybe the Holocaust is interesting because it forces us to peel back the skin of this world to reveal the pain and suffering that is woven into the very fabric of existence. To live we try to ignore it because there is no resolution against the horror. Only accommodation and eventually transcendence.

    As we go about our little lives, Chaos and pain hides around every corner, tinging the beautiful whole with blood and darkness.
    Synarch, that was beautiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mortabunt View Post
    As a four, I have to say that everyone hates me, and for me life is like a porno; no matter what happens, I get screwed by varying degrees from a quickie to a full on orgy.
    Life as rape.

    Interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
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    Hello, my name is CaptainChick and I am an enneagram 4.



    If you give me something good, I will fuck it up.

    If you give me something fucked up, I will fix it.

    I only feel centered when in the eye of the storm.

    There is a home in my heart amongst the chaos.

    I am alone, always alone, I am alone in this cyclical cyclone.

    If you are a four, please share your eccentricities, please make me feel less like a freak, and more like a four.

    For once I want to be on the inside.

    I want to connect.

    I want to be seen seeing things.

    Hello fellow fours, how are you this evening?

    Holy shit .. i am loving this site more and more .. i ain't the only screwed up individual on this planet .. Guess what i'm a 4 .. and all the words above, well i couldn't of articulated it that well .. but darling you might as well of been reading my mind when you wrote that ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
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    Hello, my name is CaptainChick and I am an enneagram 4.



    If you give me something good, I will fuck it up.

    If you give me something fucked up, I will fix it.

    I only feel centered when in the eye of the storm.

    There is a home in my heart amongst the chaos.

    I am alone, always alone, I am alone in this cyclical cyclone.

    If you are a four, please share your eccentricities, please make me feel less like a freak, and more like a four.

    For once I want to be on the inside.

    I want to connect.

    I want to be seen seeing things.

    Hello fellow fours, how are you this evening?

    I feel for you, since we only know what we percieve I can see you have yet to find love that has not hurt you nor been with someone who values experience whether it succeeds or fails. I know several 4s and my heart goes out for them. These are the people I will let beat me in a game of wit and they will never know for their happyness and the smile on thier face is all that matters. I will put their thoughts into action for the enjoyment of being with them whether I think they are right or wrong. These are the most confident people, yet when they open up you can see them bleeding. These are the people who just want someone to love them for who they are, to be able to give their heart without fear of having it stepped on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poki View Post
    These are the most confident people, yet when they open up you can see them bleeding. These are the people who just want someone to love them for who they are, to be able to give their heart without fear of having it stepped on.
    Summed it up in one ..

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