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    Ok here is another one, hope it's readable. Taken from enneagram.de. Since you liked the one for the 8, I translated another for the 4.

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    Aspiration

    The Four is branded by a deep longing for something whose beauty is diverse from the things that are. The presence is somehow always ugly. Four's have learnt early in life, to go to a place more beautiful. They developed an incredible flourishing imagination. If the outside world becomes ugly, they know where to go. There they create drama and poems and music and sense deep emotions.

    Sweet Sadness

    The emotion giving them the most energy, is the feeling of longing or deep melancholy. The longing for a beautiful world enables them to create one of their own. Outsiders do not grasp the dynamics. To others Fours come across depressive or unbalanced or at least very egocentric. And as long as a Four is young, they are indeed very home-grown. They have to enter the fantasy world of their own, to find the energy to face reality. And if one does not fit into the Fours own world, one is boring to the Four.

    Sky-high Cheering

    It's tough for parents to raise a Four, because they constantly escape into their more beautiful inner world and constantly play with their morales. Sometimes the Four appears to be manical depressive. Because they have a crack at every emotion. They try to find out, what sadness feels like and what frenzy feels like. And if they try, the particular emotion is very real.

    Something Special

    To the Four the ritual is identical to the reality. The symbol is identical to the content. The symbol and the analogy are more agitating than the reality. Through this Fours become something special. And they are aware of that! They like being special and and they savor it gleefully.

    Animators

    The Fours way to deliverance begins, if they stop being fascinated by their own differentness and to learn to use their own creativity to see the particularity in other humans and to elicit it. One might call those people "animators" or "representatives", people who can detect and entitle the potential in others and who can advocate it. The step to make other people important, delivers the Four from their self-focus.

    No Uniformity

    The old churches in Europe show that they had a great appreciation for the gifts of the Four. When the need for rationality and uniformity were not as strong as today, Fours must have felt very good in church. Today Fours do not like church except you let them arrange the service. Fours have a natural accession to the sacramental, because to them the symbol is more important than the substance.

    Deep Feelings

    A delivered Four has the possibility to concentrate the great bandwidth of their emotions, to go with some of them into the deep. Delivered Fours stop to play arround with emotions and start to really feel. In this stadium they have to share alot. Because they have a sensibility others come off. But they have to stop, to be in love with their own sensibility. That means: They have to go into the deep at a certain point. They have to feel one feeling through every phase, instead of developing more and more agony and frenzy.

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    yep
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    Sounds right to me.

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    You forgot that fours use emotions are studies of what they are. The most common emotions of fours are painful.

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    Thank you for taking the time to write that .. Spot on ..

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    Interesting. Thank you for posting that.
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    i found that interesting

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    UMMMM I have decided I am an unemotional four... Everything else fits apart from the Raging emotion stuff... Either that or prescription medication has eaten my soul
    ... couldn't drag me away

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    I certainly identify with some of this..guess I might be a 4 afterall

    Thanks for this, entropie
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    So my question is then... can you get an emotionally retarded 4!? In fact can you get an emotionally retarded ENFP!? but that's a whole other story
    ... couldn't drag me away

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