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    Quote Originally Posted by Skinny-Love View Post
    You said your father is type 8, but then you said he's type 7w8. Type 7w8 is very different from type 8. Did you intend for this thread to be more like a monologue? If so, here's a link to start a blog: http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/forum98/
    I suggest you carefully re-read my original post, Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skinny-Love View Post
    Bullshit. Bowing down to an unhealthy 8 feels more like kneeling at the chasm of hell and being hugged by a red blaze of hellish molten fury.


    Not sure if you think the Hulk is exemplary of 8 anger or not, but he's not. He's a 9 and a good example of what happens when 9s finally get angry.

    Quote Originally Posted by violett View Post
    I apppreciate your imput. I wrote about my personal experience with my father as a type 8, naturally not all 7w8's are going to be exactly like him. I understand, in an effort to maintain clarity I could have made sure to added disclaimers. Maybe from now on that's what I will do, I will be certain add an author's note at the end of any description I write about my personal experiences so that anyone who reads won't become confused about my intention, kind of like common sense warning labels used on the sides of packaging or directions which most people understand without being told, but inevitably someone will come along and say, but you didn't tell us we weren't supposed to
    Quote Originally Posted by Skinny-Love View Post
    You said your father is type 8, but then you said he's type 7w8. Type 7w8 is very different from type 8. Did you intend for this thread to be more like a monologue? If so, here's a link to start a blog: http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/forum98/
    Quote Originally Posted by violett View Post
    I suggest you carefully re-read my original post, Thank you.
    Ok, tbh, I can't follow what you are trying to say either, and I reread that post of yours several times. It does seem that you first imply he's an 8, then he's a 7w8, which is obviously contradictory. There's a big difference between a wing an a core type. I'm w9, I got a lot of 9ish traits and mannerisms but I do not at all relate to the core issues of 9 and the 8 traits are definitely much more present than the w9 ones.

    The stuff I addressed, it's not just because it applies to your dad, but the problem is that you assume the stuff that applies to your dad, as a 7w8 I should add, may not apply to 8s as a whole. That's the big problem. No one is trying to rack down on you for sharing personal experience, but the problem is that you present this experience as being defining or definite for type 8 as a whole (I am not saying that you are saying that it is, but you present it that way) when it's not and some of the stuff you write even goes very contrary to it e.g. 8s having a big friendship circle when the case is usually the other way around - a lot of 8s are very isolated because of their connection to 5, and may as a result look very 5ish due to their isolated lifestyles. The reasons 8s isolate themselves is different from the 5's, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by violett View Post
    I suggest you carefully re-read my original post, Thank you.
    Your post doesn't make sense to me with regard to the enneatype 8. That doesn't change the fact that your dad sounds like a wonderful man.

    The best book I've read on enneagram is called Everything Enneagram by Susan Reynolds. I tried to find the book review thread to post it here, but was unable to find it.

    Edit: It doesn't look like a book review thread exists for it yet, so I'm going to create one and I'll send you a link. I think you would enjoy the book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skinny-Love View Post
    Your post doesn't make sense to me with regard to the enneatype 8. That doesn't change the fact that your dad sounds like a wonderful man.

    The best book I've read on enneagram is called Everything Enneagram by Susan Reynolds. I tried to find the book review thread to post it here, but was unable to find it.
    Never heard of it. How is it like? I am trying to expand my enneagram literature. Almaas is next, probably, out of the more popular authors. Maitri is currently my favorite.

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    Actually it looks as though the thread is becoming a pissing match regarding who knows more about type 8's. Which was not my intention at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamishi View Post
    Never heard of it. How is it like? I am trying to expand my enneagram literature. Almaas is next, probably, out of the more popular authors. Maitri is currently my favorite.
    I haven't read Almaas. Let us know what you think after you read it. I started a thread with my book review for Susan Reynold's enneagram book.

    Here's a link to it:
    Everything Enneagram by Susan Reynolds


    Quote Originally Posted by violett View Post
    Actually it looks as though the thread is becoming a pissing match regarding who knows more about type 8's. Which was not my intention at all.
    Welcome to the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by violett View Post
    Actually it looks as though the thread is becoming a pissing match regarding who knows more about type 8's. Which was not my intention at all.
    No, I know it was not, but I'm an 8 and it took a lot of time until I could settle on the type and a major reason why I didn't is because people often have a fucked up idea of what an 8 is on the internet. Had been reading your post a little more than a year ago, I may still have hesitated to type as one since I couldn't relate to the information you felt were 8-ish about your dad.

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    Actually I don't have time to argue with snot nosed brats who probably still havent figured their type out anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Entropic View Post
    I'm an 8 and it took a lot of time until I could settle on the type and a major reason why I didn't is because people often have a fucked up idea of what an 8 is on the internet. Had been reading your post a little more than a year ago, I may still have hesitated to type as one since I couldn't relate to the information you felt were 8-ish about your dad.
    You also once claimed to be INTP and rambled on about the so-called differences in INTP and INTJ writing: http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...ng-styles.html. You also rambled on about being a 5: The consequences of over-identifying with the mind, talking about a lack of the physical in the 5. Newsflash: The 8 is a physical type. (Some have even referred to the 8 as the most physical type of all.)

    After all that, you're now claiming to be a type 8 and INTJ. Maybe you have a "fucked up idea" of what an 8 is. And for all I know, a "fucked up idea" of what an INTJ is. Food for thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    You also once claimed to be INTP and rambled on about the so-called differences in INTP and INTJ writing: http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...ng-styles.html. You also rambled on about being a 5: The consequences of over-identifying with the mind, talking about a lack of the physical in the 5. Newsflash: The 8 is a physical type. (Some have even referred to the 8 as the most physical type of all.)

    After all that, you're now claiming to be a type 8 and INTJ. Maybe you have a "fucked up idea" of what an 8 is. And for all I know, a "fucked up idea" of what an INTJ is. Food for thought.
    Lol, indeed I did as if that actually changes that I am self-aware now as opposed to what I were. As with most people it's a gradual process and there's no sin in mistyping.

    When I claim that people have a fucked up idea about 8 on the Internet though, I mean just that. You trying to discredit me by digging up stuff from the past isn't doing anything more than being a character slander but doesn't actually at all address the claim that is being made. You aren't defending or providing evidence why the claim is wrong and incorrect and most importantly, I don't think you can. You can try though, except I got the sources and experiential understanding on my side, which is the problem with how people discuss the type on the Internet. It tends to fall back on reproducing the popular narrative but nothing else is being presented. The popular narrative is not the type but merely a surface level of it at best.

    And newsflash: 8 is not a physical type in the direct sense of the word. Gut types deal with a sense of being in itself. This needn't be physical. In fact, all the types are physical because when one is unaware of one's type structure, one is identified with the bod, the material world and the physical aspect of the world. That's the core essential teaching of the enneagram.

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