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  1. #101

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    Recently I have been thinking about the three chemicals Adrenaline Serotonin and Dopamine.

    It gets tricky when thinking about the the instincts in one context of the three chemicals and then thinking about each of the nine energies and then the hart head and gut, and then looking at the subtype level with an influence of the instinctual variants and then the switching movements within the six instinctual variants.

    This frustrating puzzle has led me back to an old observation from twenty or so years back and I am wondering if the three chemicals Adrenaline and Serotonin and Dopamine are liked to the three grouping below. points: 4&8 and 1&7 and 2&5.


    What is the connection about at the instinctive level between the three primary Points 3 6 9 and the three pairings 4 and 8, 2 and 5, and 1 and 7.

    It seems to me that there is a structural clue to be discovered, looking at the three pairings the closest sense I can make of it is 1 and 7 seems to be linked to Point:9, and 4 and 8 seem to linked to Point:6, and 2 and 5 seems to be linked to Point:3.

    It is as if there are three ratios or three differing ratios at work one hole for 1 and 7 and its connection to Think relate / Relate think at the instinctual level Point:9. Halves for 4 and 8 and its connection to Think feel / Feel think at the instinctive level Point:6. Thirds for 2 and 5 and its connection to Sense feel / Feel sense at the instinctive level Point:3.

  2. #102

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidewinder View Post
    I praised NFs myself, and I think the world of NFJs.
    I'm shore you do,and if the topic of your persuasion was more about influencing a NT then I'm sore your narcissi mind set would have spoke; "I think the would of NTPs. Because the ISTP has ENTP as its auxiliary wing energy. I do believe your statement about thinking the world of NFJs, because the point of stress for the ISTP takes on and must develop the influencing mindset energy of INFJ.

    Do think of me as being vindictive and pissed about it, I understand quite well the mind set of the ISTP.

    When the INFP finds its balance between the influences at the instinctive level (adrenaline, serotonin, dopamine) is in it attainment of a degree of freedom can draw upon ISTP within the activity of its higher mind. This action draws upon a dual synergy action at Point:3 between the two subtype energies ISTJ & ISTP (Si Te and Ti Se) another little miracle of nature,. "O my god he has revealed to me an elemental dynamical component of active structure, now I can put the puzzle together!" -May think, Sidewinder.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidewinder View Post
    Also, there is a huge difference between how people view Intuitives and how they feel about Intuition. Most mature and educated IxSPs use their tertiary Ni pretty well. I've worked hard to develop mine.
    This is what can be seen when Si Te and Ti Se works in unison with Fi Ne and Ni Fe. If you take seriously my generous contribution towards your edification in to the mysterious and miraculous working of the sub conches you will find the rest of the balance via your own esteem.

    But remember as there are most likely Eight fields plus gravity underlying and assisting in the hosting of creation at the cosmological level this is but one tear of of many tear underlying the working of mind.

    Here's a little test and measure via Fi Ne and Ni Fe utilising Point:3

    The Feeling Triad

    Two with one wing.
    Subtype: two with one-wing; ENFJ
    Auxiliary wing: one with nine-wing; ExTJ (Ambidextrous S and N) (agenda focused)
    Second/wing: ISTJ (mood focused)
    Point of stress/disintegration: eight with nine-wing; ESFJ
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: four with five-wing; ENTP

    Two with three wing.
    Subtype: two with three-wing; ISFJ
    Auxiliary wing: three with four-wing; ISTP (agenda focused)
    Second wing: ESTJ (agenda focused)
    Point of stress/disintegration: eight with seven-wing; ESTP
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: four with three-wing; ENFP

    Three with two wing.
    Subtype: three with two-wing; ISTJ
    Auxiliary wing: two with one-wing; ENFJ (agenda)
    Second wing: ENFP (mood focused)
    Subsidiary wing: one with two-wing; ESTJ
    Subsidiary wing: five with Six-wing; INxP (Ambidextrous T and F)
    Point of stress/disintegration: nine with one-wing; INFP
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: six with five-wing; INTJ

    Three with four wing.
    Subtype: three with four-wing; ISTP
    Auxiliary wing: four with-five; ENTP (agenda)
    Second wing: two with three-wing; ISFJ (mood)
    Subsidiary wing: five with four-wing; INTP
    Subsidiary wing: one with nine-wing; ExTJ (Ambidextrous S and N)
    Point of stress/disintegration: nine with eight-wing; INFJ
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: six with seven-wing; ISFP

    Four with three wing.
    Subtype: four with three-wing; ENFP
    Auxiliary/wing: three with two-wing; ISTJ (agenda focused)
    Second/wing: INTP (mood focused)
    Point of stress/disintegration: two with three-wing; ISFJ
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: one with two-wing; ESTJ

    Four with five wing.
    Subtype: four with five wing; ENTP
    Auxiliary wing: five with six wing; INxP (Ambidextrous T and F) (agenda focused)
    Second wing: ISTP (mood focused)
    Point of stress/disintegration: two with one-wing; ENFJ
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: one with nine-wing; ExTJ (Ambidextrous S and N)

    The Doing Triad/Thinking Triad

    Five with four-wing.
    Subtype: five with four-wing; INTP
    Auxiliary wing: four with three-wing; ENFP (agenda focused)
    Second wing: ISFP (mood focused)
    Point of stress/disintegration: seven with six-wing; ESFP
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: eight with nine-wing; ESFJ

    Five with six-wing.
    Subtype: five with six-wing; INxP (Ambidextrous T and F)
    Auxiliary wing: six with seven-wing; ISFP (agenda focused)
    Second wing: ENTP (agenda focused)
    Point of stress/disintegration: seven with eight-wing; ENTJ
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: eight with seven-wing; ESTP

    Six with five-wing.
    Subtype: six with five-wing; INTJ
    Auxiliary wing: five with four-wing; INTP (agenda focused)
    Second wing: ENTP (mood focused)
    Subsidiary wing: four with three-wing; ENFP
    Subsidiary wing: eight with nine-wing; ESFJ
    Point of stress/disintegration: three with two-wing; ISTJ
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: nine with one-wing; INFP

    Six with seven-wing.
    Subtype: six with seven-wing; ISFP
    Auxiliary wing: seven with eight-wing; ENTJ (agenda focused)
    Second wing: INFTP (mood focused)
    Subsidiary wing: four with five-wing; ENTP
    Subsidiary wing: eight with seven-wing; ESTP
    Point of stress/disintegration: three with four-wing; ISTP
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: nine with eight-wing; INFJ

    Seven with six-wing.
    Subtype: seven with six-wing; ESFP
    Auxiliary wing: six with five-wing; INTJ (agenda focused)
    Second wing: ESTP (mood focused)
    Point of stress/disintegration: one with nine-wing; ExTJ (Ambidextrous S and N)
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: five with four-wing; INTP

    Seven with eight-wing.
    Subtype: seven with eight wing; ENTJ
    Auxiliary wing: eight with nine wing; ESFJ (agenda focused)
    Second wing: ESFP (mood focused)
    Point of stress/disintegration: one with two wing; ESTJ
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: five with six wing; INxP(Ambidextrous T and F)

    The Relating Triad/Instinctive Triad

    Eight with seven-wing.
    Subtype: eight with seven-wing; ESTP
    Auxiliary wing: seven with six-wing; ESFP (agenda focused)
    Second wing: INFP (mood focused)
    Point of stress/disintegration: five with six-wing; INxP (Ambidextrous T and F)
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: two with three-wing; ISFJ

    Eight with nine-wing.
    Subtype: eight with nine-wing; ESFJ
    Auxiliary wing: nine with-eight; INFJ (agenda focused)
    Second wing: ENTJ (mood focused)
    Point of stress/disintegration: five with four-wing; INTP
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: two with one-wing; ENFJ

    Nine with eight-wing.
    Sub-type: nine with eight-wing; INFJ
    Auxiliary wing: eight with seven-wing; ESTP (agenda focused)
    Second wing: ESNTJ (mood focused)
    Subsidiary wing: seven with eight-wing; ENTJ
    Subsidiary wing: two with three-wing; ISFJ
    Point of stress/disintegration: six with seven-wing; ISFP
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: three with four-wing; ISTP

    Nine with one-wing.
    Subtype: nine with one-wing; INFP
    Auxiliary wing: one with two-wing; ESTJ (agenda focused)
    Second wing: ESFJ (mood focused)
    Subsidiary wing: two with one-wing; ENFJ
    Subsidiary wing: seven with six-wing; ESFP
    Point of stress/disintegration: six with five-wing; INTJ
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: three with two-wing; ISTJ

    One with nine-wing.
    Subtype: one with nine-wing; ExTJ (Ambidextrous S and N)
    Auxiliary wing: nine with one-wing; INFP (agenda focused)
    Second wing: ISFJ (mood focused)
    Point of stress/disintegration: four with five-wing; ENTP
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: seven with six-wing; ESFP

    One with two-wing.
    Sub-type: one with two-wing; ESTJ
    Auxiliary wing: two with three-wing; ISFJ (agenda focused)
    Second wing: INFJ (mood focused)
    Point of stress/disintegration: four with three-wing; ENFP
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: seven with eight-wing; ENTJ


    Mark Anthony Rockliff 9w1 INFP Sx/Sp/So 1221 D type.

  3. #103

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    Yes there is much showmanship to be pronounced via the ISTp mind set. The actor playing Will Wonker is an ISFP, ISTP INFJ and ISTP have a shared movement within a triangle action.

    The law of three is alway at work within the mechanical operations of the mind of man. As to their are two distinctive primary instinctual triangles The actor playing Willy Wonker is in the personal triangle,,the instinctual subtypes or verdant heads that shear the triangle are the Sx/Sp/So and the Sp/So/Sx and the So/Sx/Sp. it interesting that what who the character seeks most is teamwork in the form of celebration a cooperative synergy between people, the dreamer and the status seeker seem to rule Willys Shadow Side in a convincing manner witch draws loyalty to the Thinking Image Will Wonker (the actor) solicits convincingly from the young audience and not so young audience who live to dream and be entertained.

    What aspect of the character prompted you to post his image amongst an ISTp thread? @castigat

    The team work triangle consists of the remaining three instinctual subtypes or variant heads the Sx/So/Sp and the So/Sp/Sx and the Sp/Sx/So.

    The Sx/Sp/So upon the enneagram occupies the points (Sx -4 Sp -2 So -7 and connect with it triangle by choice, to draw upon Sp at point:1 or Sp at point:2 the Sp at point:2 it part of the Teamwork instinctual triangle as is So at point:7 and Sx at point:4 the central fixation energy point for the Sx/Sp/So.

    And the Sp/So/Sx and the So/Sx/Sp follow the same structural flowing ,dynamic, the Sp/So/Sx (Sp centred at point:1 can draw upon So at Point:8 (one of three energies within the teamwork triangle) or upon So point:7 the (So) -Social energy ,that is part of the three part triangle focuses primarily upon the personal within human interactions. As a predominant biased fixation that can naturally manifest into or via the creative force or the destructive force or as a seemingly normal egoic congenial personification of selfs personalised character.

    Each of the two triangles has within it one Self-preservation instinctive variant energy and one Social instinct variant energy and one Sexual (biological) or one on one instinctual drive (non sexual) with the context not as sexual as in sexual attraction but sexual as in biological awareness.

    The three instinctual energies (Sp, Sx, So,) are like three reactive response form of three biological chemical driven states towards selfs orientations of Being, as if one was a positive one was a megatherium and one a neutral. (-, +, 0,).

    The Sx seems to me to be: 0 and the So seems to me to be: - and the Sp seems to me to be +.

    Sx neutral (serotonin driven), (0).
    Sp active (adrenaline driven), (+).
    So passive (dopamine driven), (-).

    As an example the Sx/Sp/So Sx energy at point:4 the Sx component is linked its own the selfs own serotonin output and when the Sx/Sp/So connects with its So instinctual drive/ variant head energy at point:7 the Sx/Sp/So the So energy the Sx/Sp/So draws upon the experience of its own dopamine uptake and when the Sx/Sp/So draws upon the Sp energy at (point:1) it draw upon the selfs own adrenalin up take as also Sp point:2 but the phycology differs because the state Sx/Sp (point:4 interacting at the instinctive energy level with point:2) is drawing upon it primary bias of a phycological lens (feel -sense). Point:3 is the hart triad apex and feel is the inner experience (point:4 Sx and sense is sensed Point:2 Sp. theirs is a sub set action relating to the three into three of -, 0, +. The adrenalin can be chandler as a stress response experienced because the explicate is being sense from a feel biased lens or orientation.

    The + (can influence the 0 and generate stress via the apex - and the active apex (hart centre reacts and shifts from being a neutral to being a stressed state. Bravado placating reaction stems from the hart centre for the Sx/Sp/So under stress. But there is much complexity and the universe is but one example, remembering that there always is a three into three optional posable orientation of experienced phenomenon. At ease with the + serotonin the Sx/Sp/So
    Can become unusually receptive and extreme clarity is possible the Sx/Sp/So is sensing via the hart correct values the neutral has been honoured and the + and - from the remaining Primary Point has been utilised correctly. A higher synergy has been attained in the now hence (unusually receptive and extreme clarity attained momentarily.

    This is one exam ample of the six variant heads and the other five variant heads have there own structural pattern also. That can be understood as like the example of the Sx/Sp/So example above.

    Anyway it's not my style to participate with the forum in a fluid manner conveying clarity and expending productive concise insights so it's time to return to the norm and say,. Get stuffed, you STP's are boring me with your typical numb nut Gut responses to the psych spiritual component of experiencing a lived life. Arrr,..I feel much better now that I'm back on track.


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  4. #104

    Default KitchenFly's laboratory for the exploration of number patterns




    "Posed on VBM members web sight."


    Hay check out this photo I found on face book at fifth star labs.

    Saturn's weird north Pole.
    Hexagonal storm with 200mph rotating central vortex!

    I think it's interesting. Man has six instinctual varients, there are six astroid belts between mars and Jupiter, Pluto is a body of six Astroid like spinning moons.

    Pluto's Spring moons can be viewed representatively on you tube,

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ei5aF6Bw56E

    Any way I thought it maybe of interest to the VBM members so I have posted it.

    Then they say North Pole dose that mean that Saturn's North Pole is pointed towards the center of our galexy, if so that is posablely very interesting, a moon above Saturn's North Pole a central circle at the centre of the hexagon that sits on the serface of a round planet with astroid filled rings.

    My thinking is quite simple and the thought I have is that Saturn is a gas ball a round 360* like 4D vortex. Some may correct me, 94% is hydrogen and hydrogen has one negatively charged electron and one proton. Saturn is also made of 4% helium and helium is made of two negatively charged electrons and two protons and two neutrinos.

    Hydrogen has one negatively charged electron and helium has two negatively charged electrons, two plus one equals three and that three reminds me of the "V" the upside down v in the VBM simbol the v between points 3 - 6 - 9 as if at some level the electrons worked together and had a working relationship this the working of VBM. And also if we add the number of protons one from the hydrogen atom and two from the helium atom we has once again a sum of three. Then we have left over two (0) neutrons from the helium atom, they remind me that there is a left and right in nature and from Point:9 processes within the enneagram model can flow from the left 9-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 or from the right 9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1-9. All part added together gives a sum of eight. That reminds me of cosmologists stated his belief that there may be eight fields and gravity. The one ball (Saturn) may represent gravity the eight parts between the sum of parts between the two atoms one hydrogen and one helium may have a working relationship a link with the eight fields at the quantum level supporting greater natures creation. Gravity plus Eight fields equals nine working parts witch reminds me of VBM and the enneagram working with nine points around a circle.

    Any way that's my big picture view idea relating to what could that picture be about at a cosmology level a quontum level.

    Also found this: -Saturn is not solid like Earth, but is instead a giant gas planet. It is made up of 94% hydrogen, 6% helium and small amounts of methane and ammonia. Hydrogen and helium are what most stars are made of. It is thought that there might be a molten, rocky core about the size of Earth deep within Saturn


    It would be funny or interesting if that blue small sausage like dot was simply water. H2O because oxygen has eight electrons eight protons eight neutrons. The two hydrogen H2 ,at be linked with point:9 of the ennneagam model because at one level of the workings of the enneagram in one sercific process relating to progress and evolution all processes begin at zero at point nine and end at nine at point nine. (0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9). At Point:9 (9-0) , -5-6-7-8-(9-0)-1-2-3-4- , I like this view because 5+4=9, 6+3=9, 7+2=9, 8+1=9, 9+0=9. Five nine's equels forty five, four and five equels nine.

    Witch reminds me of the symbol of The Absolute witch has three equel lines making a triangle and if each end point of each of the three lines has a value of nine the six part added together equels the sum value of fifty four (54) fifty four in the opposite direction equels fourth five.

    Any way I have a large number pattern that I generated from the question about the large dark energy number, 122 zeros and then a number pops up 138. The 45 - 54 fits into that number pattern it plays on the idea that there maybe a third hidden math and the logic is like ( 45 - 54 ) two five's equels ten and two fours equels eight and the sum value can be eighteen.

    Well I may as well shear it.


    Part: 1 of 2

    Professor Leonard Susskind
    So, the dark energy is not exactly zero, but the first 122 decimal points are zero. That's crazy. That is really one of the craziest things we've ever discovered.

    Professor Brian Greene
    The amount of it is bizarre. It's a number that has basically a decimal point, 122 zeros and something like a 138 at the end. It's hard for us to imagine starting with a theory, doing calculations, and, after some number of pages of scribbling, having .000... All these zeros and then a one pop out of our equations.


    A decimal point, 122 zeros and something like a 138 at the end.

    eight master genes
    three law ten's and law three
    one hundred and eight, 108 divided by 18 = 6 and divided by 9 = 16

    The table chart for the higgs boson field has, six quarts and six leptons and four gauge bosons equaling sixteen components.

    122 + 3 = 125 placings from the decimal point.

    Decimal point as the Higgs Boson?

    18 divided by 125 = 0.144

    Mass spectrum for the carbon atom: 3+11+15+19+23+40+50+60+80+90 = 461

    461.125

    4+6+1+1+2+5 = 19 Boundaries of Creation

    461.144

    4+6+1+1+4+4 = 20 Law: 20

    20 - 19 = 1

    4 Boundaries 3 Segments

    I give a number value of 18 to each line that makes the inner triangle and or a value of two nines one for each end of each of the three lines that make the inner triangle, equaling 54.

    I also recognise that the number 54 can be read as 45 , < 54 > depending upon the direction of flow.

    45+54+45 = 114

    THE ABSOLUTE

    DO 2592 7/7
    TI 2406 6/7
    LA 2221 5/7
    SO 2036 4/7
    FA 1851 3/7
    MI 1666 2/7
    RE 1481 1/7
    DO 1296 0/7


    DO 2+5+9+2 = 18
    TI 2+4+0+6 = 12
    LA 2+2+2+1 = 7
    SO 2+0+3+6 = 11
    FA 1+8+5+1 = 15
    MI 1+6+6+6 = 19
    RE 1+4+8+1 = 14
    DO 1+2+9+6 = 18

    DO + DO=36
    TI + RE = 26
    LA + MI = 26
    SO + FA = 26
    ............. 114

    45+54+45 = 114


    Part: 2 of 2

    461.114


    4 + 4 = 8 eight master genes
    6 + 4 =10 law:10
    1 + 1 = 2 cause and effect

    Decimal point: reconciliation

    Decimal point: value one.

    1+1+1+4= 10

    4+6+1 = 11


    Implicate end: 1 ------- 0 Cercle of the enneagram

    Absolute:centre.............. Universe: Intelligent Enneagram

    Implicate end: 1 ------- 1 Centre of the enneagram


    4 Boundaries 3 Segments

    1 ------- 0

    1 ------- 1


    144 - 114 = 30

    A decimal point, 122 zeros and something like a 138 at the end.


    144 and 114 & 122 and 138 , 122 114 , 2+2 = 4

    144 and 114 & 122 and 138 , 144 , 4+4 = 8

    144 and 114 & 122 and 138 , 1+1+1 = 3


    1__ and 1__

    .01

    1 ------- 0 :The zero

    1 ------- 1 :The one

    At this point I start to think of Strings and the possibility that the Absolute is represented in all living cells and via the Atom within.

    And that: 1 --- 1 and 1 --- 0 , are related to zero to nine and before and after the decimal point or each side of the decimal point and the decimal point I think of as a representation of the centre of the Intelligent enneagram and the implicate of the dynamic of the absolute and its functionality within the workings of the explicate.

    Don't get court on this not adding up to 10 ( 1+1+1+4= 10 ) the idea is that something connects making the value equel 10. Something with a value that adds to three or has three parts like the "V" the upside down v in VBM perhaps.

    Anyway hope that was interesting at some level.

  5. #105

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indiana Solo View Post
    Most of you guys are terrible at typing people. He's obviously an ESTP. ESTPs are literally labeled "The Entrepreneur."

    VOTE FOR TRUMP 2016
    For the 8w9 with its primal cognitive energy being ESFJ its 9 wing is focused upon agenda and its 7 wing is mood impulse driven. The seven wing for the ESFJ 8w9w7 is ENTJ.

    For the 8w7 with its primal cognitive energy being ESTP its 7 wing is focused upon agenda and its 9 wing is mood impulse driven. The severn wing for the ESTP is 8w7w9 is ESFP 7w6 and the mood wing (9) is INFP 9w1.

    Actually upon deeper reflection I thinking you are correct, he is a ESTP: 8w7, 8w7w9
    Tri type: 8w9 2w3 6w7.

    My apologise.

  6. #106

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    I made a cupelled of small errors so I have made the needed corrects.


    Quote Originally Posted by KitchenFly View Post
    The Feeling Triad

    Two with one wing.
    Subtype: two with one-wing; ENFJ
    Auxiliary wing: one with nine-wing; ExTJ (Ambidextrous S and N) (agenda focused)
    Second/wing: ISTJ (mood focused)
    Point of stress/disintegration: eight with nine-wing; ESFJ
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: four with five-wing; ENTP

    Two with three wing.
    Subtype: two with three-wing; ISFJ
    Auxiliary wing: three with four-wing; ISTP (agenda focused)
    Second wing: ESTJ (agenda focused)
    Point of stress/disintegration: eight with seven-wing; ESTP
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: four with three-wing; ENFP

    Three with two wing.
    Subtype: three with two-wing; ISTJ
    Auxiliary wing: two with one-wing; ENFJ (agenda)
    Second wing: ENFP (mood focused)
    Subsidiary wing: one with two-wing; ESTJ
    Subsidiary wing: five with Six-wing; INxP (Ambidextrous T and F)
    Point of stress/disintegration: nine with one-wing; INFP
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: six with five-wing; INTJ

    Three with four wing.
    Subtype: three with four-wing; ISTP
    Auxiliary wing: four with-five; ENTP (agenda)
    Second wing: two with three-wing; ISFJ (mood)
    Subsidiary wing: five with four-wing; INTP
    Subsidiary wing: one with nine-wing; ExTJ (Ambidextrous S and N)
    Point of stress/disintegration: nine with eight-wing; INFJ
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: six with seven-wing; ISFP

    Four with three wing.
    Subtype: four with three-wing; ENFP
    Auxiliary/wing: three with two-wing; ISTJ (agenda focused)
    Second/wing: INTP (mood focused)
    Point of stress/disintegration: two with three-wing; ISFJ
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: one with two-wing; ESTJ

    Four with five wing.
    Subtype: four with five wing; ENTP
    Auxiliary wing: five with six wing; INxP (Ambidextrous T and F) (agenda focused)
    Second wing: ISTP (mood focused)
    Point of stress/disintegration: two with one-wing; ENFJ
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: one with nine-wing; ExTJ (Ambidextrous S and N)

    The Doing Triad/Thinking Triad

    Five with four-wing.
    Subtype: five with four-wing; INTP
    Auxiliary wing: four with three-wing; ENFP (agenda focused)
    Second wing: ISFP (mood focused)
    Point of stress/disintegration: seven with six-wing; ESFP
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: eight with nine-wing; ESFJ

    Five with six-wing.
    Subtype: five with six-wing; INxP (Ambidextrous T and F)
    Auxiliary wing: six with seven-wing; ISFP (agenda focused)
    Second wing: ENTP (agenda focused)
    Point of stress/disintegration: seven with eight-wing; ENTJ
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: eight with seven-wing; ESTP

    Six with five-wing.
    Subtype: six with five-wing; INTJ
    Auxiliary wing: five with four-wing; INTP (agenda focused)
    Second wing: ESFP (mood focused)
    Subsidiary wing: four with three-wing; ENFP
    Subsidiary wing: eight with nine-wing; ESFJ
    Point of stress/disintegration: three with two-wing; ISTJ
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: nine with one-wing; INFP

    Six with seven-wing.
    Subtype: six with seven-wing; ISFP
    Auxiliary wing: seven with eight-wing; ENTJ (agenda focused)
    Second wing: INFTP (mood focused)
    Subsidiary wing: four with five-wing; ENTP
    Subsidiary wing: eight with seven-wing; ESTP
    Point of stress/disintegration: three with four-wing; ISTP
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: nine with eight-wing; INFJ

    Seven with six-wing.
    Subtype: seven with six-wing; ESFP
    Auxiliary wing: six with five-wing; INTJ (agenda focused)
    Second wing: ESTP (mood focused)
    Point of stress/disintegration: one with nine-wing; ExTJ (Ambidextrous S and N)
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: five with four-wing; INTP

    Seven with eight-wing.
    Subtype: seven with eight wing; ENTJ
    Auxiliary wing: eight with nine wing; ESFJ (agenda focused)
    Second wing: INTJ (mood focused)
    Point of stress/disintegration: one with two wing; ESTJ
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: five with six wing; INxP(Ambidextrous T and F)

    The Relating Triad/Instinctive Triad

    Eight with seven-wing.
    Subtype: eight with seven-wing; ESTP
    Auxiliary wing: seven with six-wing; ESFP (agenda focused)
    Second wing: INFP (mood focused)
    Point of stress/disintegration: five with six-wing; INxP (Ambidextrous T and F)
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: two with three-wing; ISFJ

    Eight with nine-wing.
    Subtype: eight with nine-wing; ESFJ
    Auxiliary wing: nine with-eight; INFJ (agenda focused)
    Second wing: ENTJ (mood focused)
    Point of stress/disintegration: five with four-wing; INTP
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: two with one-wing; ENFJ

    Nine with eight-wing.
    Sub-type: nine with eight-wing; INFJ
    Auxiliary wing: eight with seven-wing; ESTP (agenda focused)
    Second wing: ESNTJ (mood focused)
    Subsidiary wing: seven with eight-wing; ENTJ
    Subsidiary wing: two with three-wing; ISFJ
    Point of stress/disintegration: six with seven-wing; ISFP
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: three with four-wing; ISTP

    Nine with one-wing.
    Subtype: nine with one-wing; INFP
    Auxiliary wing: one with two-wing; ESTJ (agenda focused)
    Second wing: ESFJ (mood focused)
    Subsidiary wing: two with one-wing; ENFJ
    Subsidiary wing: seven with six-wing; ESFP
    Point of stress/disintegration: six with five-wing; INTJ
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: three with two-wing; ISTJ

    One with nine-wing.
    Subtype: one with nine-wing; ExTJ (Ambidextrous S and N)
    Auxiliary wing: nine with one-wing; INFP (agenda focused)
    Second wing: ISFJ (mood focused)
    Point of stress/disintegration: four with five-wing; ENTP
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: seven with six-wing; ESFP

    One with two-wing.
    Sub-type: one with two-wing; ESTJ
    Auxiliary wing: two with three-wing; ISFJ (agenda focused)
    Second wing: INFJ (mood focused)
    Point of stress/disintegration: four with three-wing; ENFP
    Point of Integration/Neurosis: seven with eight-wing; ENTJ

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    INFJ's can be qurious and seek understanding from INFP's on how they seem so settled and content and at ease when they are open and balanced balanced within there own skin present and grounded and simply open to view the emendate world and the situation of what is.

    INFJ is or can be curious I out the use of Fi and Ne because they seek to develop the balance between there subtype energy and tritype energy to gain a larger balance.

    Another nuance for this is there auxiliary wings wing is INFP the ESNTJ so this compels the INFJ to this action of INFP curiosity of 9w1 curiosity.

    As an INFP I have had two close long term INFJ friends between the age of 12 and 27 who acted this way, they wanted to know how I utilised my presence in such a manner to be able to see to the hart of things with out being disturbed by the chaos and possibilities of negativity perceived.

    Fi seeks to identify with values and via the tritype balance Ni balances with the Ne and asserts the Fe, a holiness in action is honoured with the assistance of keys the three energy focus and the six energy focus observational awareness from point three and and synergetic awareness from point six supports the Being Presence Key at point nine, it's easier for the 9w1 because they are more focused on the balanced aspects of situational awareness that relates to what is taking place to make judgment where as 9w8 or the INFJ is more focused on the trees that make up the forest and are more concerned with the potential chaos factors the smarty trees may pose, Ne focuses on the forest as it is Fe questions the diversity that is the forest, Fi recognises the trees for what they are Ne questions the trees.

    INFJ focuses to the left of the circle of the enneagram and that has its advantages with dealing with the emendate.

    INFP focuses to the right of the circle of the enneagram and that has its advantages with being dealing with the emendate.

    Both over lap and both have an access to harmony that leads from two forms of presence United as one a dual grouping.

    (9w8w1) utilising Trifix 9 _ _ via 6&3 , Tri type 9w1 , _w_ , _w_ , via 3&6.

    plus

    (9w1w8) utilising Trifix 9 _ _ via 3&6 , Tri type 9w8 , _w_ , _w_ , via 6&3.

    The greater Presence is made from the utilisation of the two parts of Part's United.

    I think for me the pattern is:
    (9w1w8) utilising Trifix 9 2 7 via 3&6 ,Tri type 9w8 , 5w6 , 4w5 , via 6&3.

    (9w8w1) utilising Trifix 9 7 2 via 6&3 ,Tri type 9w1 , ?w? , ?w? , via 3&6.

    I can recall having exercised the second Tri type , ?w? , ?w? , via 3&6 when I was in grade seven one day at school during an event when I labeled describing all the teachers instinctual characters before all the children in the school when I was forced to perform before the school.

    Because I switched on in an unconventional manner via the use of presence to perform a task of will I can recall experiencing the shifts, the three second Tri type energies aligning into place to perform the action but I can not recall the subtype energies of each energy because I was utilising the synergy of the three energies to receptively read the instinctual character of each of the teachers.

    I received. Standing ovation because I correctly identified each and all correctly and because I did an action that all present could identify with as a potential action they were capable of doing if they gave then selves the permission.

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    The instinctual variant structures is a fascinating subject and is a subject.

    There is much movement more movement in fact than is commonly recognised.

    In my opinion the instinctual variant's are connected to the primary triangle Point:3 sense, Point:9 relate, Point:6 feel.

    I also suspect that the instinctual variant structure has a structural connection within the 18 subtype structure at the level of Tri type. My thoughts are, the subtype energy component of self has a extended capacity and that capacity is a second Tri type structure that is directly connected to the intelligence of identifying traits behaviours and attitude orientated mannerisms that stem from the cognitive phycology output generated from the six instinctual variant head's innate.

    To be helpful the nine energies and the six instinctual variants are interconnected. Stemming from the complexity, is a structure much like a multiplicity (two subtype wing structures) one that generates an agenda orientated focus and the other a mood related orientated focus.

    As an example I Am 9 , INFP 9w1 , 936 963 369 Sx/Sp/So , 9w8 5w6 4w5

    The (936 963 369) is linked to the structure (Sx/Sp/So) but via intense Presence a second tritype structure is able to become active and this structure is able to witness and describe in typology like manner the instinctual variant head structure.

    I am unsure as how the larger synergy actually works it maybe that two tritype structures one from each subtype wing structure influence contributes to the over all cognitive ability. But I do know that three shocks are involved and it is my belief that the three shocks are the awakening of the three lenses the three components of the second Tritype structure innate via the primary subtype structure.

  9. #109

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    Quote Originally Posted by CognitiveLiberty View Post
    What MBTI/Socionics type do you identify with, KitchenFly?
    INFP, I don't know anything about the Socionics structure, every time I think about it lately I am thinking that it's a lens view out onto the human condition from the SP view point. I wonder if there is a 36 perspectives structure within the Socionics model. Sixteen ways to interpret four actions.

    But I don't know I have never spent more than ten minute at a time looking at the system @CognitiveLiberty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zay View Post
    Seems like you are trying to correlate and combine all kinds of theories and information in order to create your own theory and understanding of things which, when translated into words and posted on forums makes no sense to everyone else. Even crazier is that you have been busy with this for 25 years.

    Your confusing posts are all over the internet, with your first MBTI/Enneagram correlation article (which you also post everywhere) being posted all the way back in 2007. Which was the same year you quit your business in Australia? :P



    He says he is an INFP 9w1 sx/sp.
    @Zay
    Well yer, So..? Good detective work on your part and what of it?

    Is it right wrong or nether right or wrong just simply is... All over the Internet since 2007 when I deregistered my provisional patent entitled: A System For Identifying Personality Type. An Australian Provisional Patent Application.

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