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    Default Bad Enneatyping practices.

    I am reluctant to Enneatype people on the forum unless I know them well, but for people who do want to, I've concluded that there is a right and wrong way to go about it.

    What concerns me is that many posters here base their judgements on the stereotypical type descriptions they read (I get the feeling from Riso-Hudson mainly). The problem with this is that these descriptions are, well, stereotypes, and a minority of people in any given type will closely match them. As one's MBTI and instinctual stacking - as well as variables like gender and culture - will colour the way an Enneatype is expressed; it seems ludicrous to assume that all people with a given type will obey a stereotype.

    To me, the fundamental behaviours somebody must identify with to be given an Enneatype are:

    The Worldview
    The Core Fear
    The feedback loops
    (A few of) The levels of health

    For the hell of it let's start with E1. (material from 9Types and The Enneagram Institute)

    World View: The world is an imperfect place. I work toward improvement.
    Basic Fear: of being condemned
    Feedback Loops:
    (read the descriptions of them, too)
    Levels of Health:



    In my view, if you strongly identify with the above, you're likely to be a 1, and I'll go further: the above is actually all that matters. Whether you are a religious zealot or not should have no bearing on anything. But I am sure discerning people can see a problem here: how are you supposed to assess these things if you don't know the person in question? They're pretty personal. I mean it's not as if I would talk about my core fears and desire in life to random strangers on the net. Stereotypes come in because people feel they have to fill in the missing pieces somehow.

    I suggest members stop Enneatyping newbies and anybody we don't know well, even if they ask. Working off "vibes" just isn't the right way to go about this.

    Constructive comments are welcome...

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    Can you post the other feedback loops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evee View Post
    Can you post the other feedback loops.
    Nahhh, I'm too lazy. Here's the link to the 1 page though, and you can find the other ones from there.... Type 1 -- Enneagram Personality Dynamics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kullervo View Post
    Nahhh, I'm too lazy. Here's the link to the 1 page though, and you can find the other ones from there.... Type 1 -- Enneagram Personality Dynamics
    Just as well.. thanks.

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    The main problem with this is that you can identify your own patterns in more than one type ... and may often pick the one that's more obvious to you but may not actually strike at the heart of the issue.

    For example, while I'm a core 4, I superficially identify with the 5 loop more and did in fact mistype at 5 for a long time. Similarly, my ex identifies with the 4 loop but that stuff is a smokescreen designed to conceal the neurosis of his real core type, which is 7.

    This, like any other typing method else, requires a fairly high level of self-awareness, or awareness of whoever you're typing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana View Post
    The main problem with this is that you can identify your own patterns in more than one type ... and may often pick the one that's more obvious to you but may not actually strike at the heart of the issue.
    I realise that nobody purely expresses the patterns of one type; this is when wings and the integration point become useful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana View Post
    For example, while I'm a core 4, I superficially identify with the 5 loop more and did in fact mistype at 5 for a long time. Similarly, my ex identifies with the 4 loop but that stuff is a smokescreen designed to conceal the neurosis of his real core type, which is 7.
    Uh oh. I don't relate to the 5 loop at all. There are aspects of the 3 and 6 loops that I identify with, but thoughts like this ----> "Something's missing. Others have it. I'm different from them because I don't" are just...you have no idea how badly I get wracked with that...

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana View Post
    This, like any other typing method else, requires a fairly high level of self-awareness, or awareness of whoever you're typing.
    In which case, surely you generally agree with what I've said in the OP?

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