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    Default Enneagram Type and MBTI function correlations...

    I've been reading enneagram descriptions and trying to form rough correlations between them and mbti functions... My speculations as to that are as follows:

    Gut
    Enneagram 8 - Se
    Enneagram 9 - Si
    Enneagram 1 - Ni

    Heart
    Enneagram 2 - Fe-aux
    Enneagram 3 - Fe-dom
    Enneagram 4 - Fi

    Head
    Enneagram 5 - Ti
    Enneagram 6 - Te
    Enneagram 7 - Ne

    Based on this, I'd expect following main enneagram types for MBTI types:

    ISTJ - 9w8 or 9w1 with a head second type
    ISFJ - 9w8 or 9w1 with a heart second type
    INTJ - 1w9 or 1w2 with a head second type
    INFJ - 1w9 or 1w2 with a heart second type

    ISTP - 5w4 or 5w6 with a gut second type
    INTP - 5w4 or 5w6 with a head second type
    ISFP - 4w3 or 4w5 with a gut second type
    INFP - 4w3 or 4w5 with a head second type

    ESTJ - 6w5 or 6w7 with a gut second type
    ENTJ - 6w5 or 6w7 with a heart gut? second type
    ENFJ - 3w2 or 3w4 with a gut second type
    ESFJ - 3w2 or 3w4 with a heart gut? s second type

    ESTP - 8w7 or 8w9 with a head second type
    ESFP - 8w7 or 8w9 with a heart second type
    ENTP - 7w6 or 7w8 with a head second type
    ENFP - 7w6 or 7w8 with a heart second type


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    Courtesy of @Zarathustra and @BlackCat:





    So, (loosely) I'd say:

    1 - J (Je)
    2 - FJ (Fe)
    3 - E (Xe)
    4 - IF
    5 - IT
    6 - N/A
    7- EP (Pe)
    8 - ET
    9 - I (Xi)
    7w6 - 2w3 - 8w7 sx/so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chanaynay View Post
    So, (loosely) I'd say:

    1 - J (Je)
    2 - FJ (Fe)
    3 - E (Xe)
    4 - IF
    5 - IT
    6 - N/A
    7- EP (Pe)
    8 - ET
    9 - I (Xi)
    This is much better than @yeghor's (which is overly simplistic, inflexible, myopic, and doesn't even have one for 2s [which are obviously correlated to FJ {and, after that, F in general (2s are Agreeable, Ts are not [BIG 5])}]).

    Yours, Chandler (is it ok to use your name? I seriously can't say "Chanaynay" - if not, let me know, and I'll take it out), is totally acceptable and on point, but, if there were any comments I would make they would be:

    - there are a decent number of IF 5s
    - e6 can really be any type, but seems to be more associated with Pi dominance than anything else
    - e8 is a good deal more associated with ETJ (and especially ENTJ) than it is with ETP (and especially ENTP)
    - also, there are actually a decent amount of EF 8s (not nearly as many as ETs, but enough)
    - e9 is more associated with IFs than ITs, but yes, Xi is appropriate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    This is much better than @yeghor's (which is overly simplistic, inflexible, myopic, and doesn't even have one for 2s [which are obviously correlated to FJ {and, after that, F in general (2s are Agreeable, Ts are not [BIG 5])}]).

    Yours, Chandler (is it ok to use your name? I seriously can't say "Chanaynay" - if not, let me know, and I'll take it out), is totally acceptable and on point, but, if there were any comments I would make they would be:

    - there are a decent number of IF 5s
    - e6 can really be any type, but seems to be more associated with Pi dominance than anything else
    - there are actually a decent amount of EF 8s (not as many as ETs, but enough)
    - e9 is more associated with IFs than ITs, but yes, Xi is appropriate
    Why doesn't the numbers in the chart by each type vertically add up to 100%?

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    I don't buy it, but I do like that Fi-Ne-Si lines up perfectly with my tritype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
    Why doesn't the numbers in the chart by each type vertically add up to 100%?
    Because only ~70% of the >10,000 people self-reported both their MBTI type and Enneagram type

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    Thanks... But the data in the charts are coming from people's reported typings I guess...

    I based my assumptions on enneagram descriptions... Do (plural) you think for instance enneagram 1 description fits Te or Fe?

    Yeah, I am aware my model is very simplistic...it doesn't reflect the transition between functions...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Because only ~70% of the >10,000 people self-reported both their MBTI type and Enneagram type
    Why did you include the incomplete 30% then? Or did you not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
    Yeah, I am aware my model is very simplistic...it doesn't reflect the transition between functions...
    Its flaws are more numerous than just that.

    The very philosophical underpinnings of it are flawed.

    You should not simply try to understand how Jungian types fit into enneagram types on 1:1 basis.

    They are looking at very different parts of our psychology, and thus do not work and stack up this way.

    You should try to understand what it means to be, for example, an ENFJ 8, or an INFP 5, or an ISTP 9, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Its flaws are more numerous than just that.
    I am not trying to fault find... So if we multiply the percentages by 1.4 roughly... About 40% of self-reported INFJs turn out to be enneagram 4s... whereas only 20% of them are of enneagram types 1 and 2...

    If "I" assume that enneagram 1 and 2 reportings are actual INFJs, this means that only 1 in 5 INFJs online is an actual INFJ...

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