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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
    To verify your high enneagram 4 score, do you relate to the enneagram 4 description?
    Hmm...

    INTENSE CREATIVE

    The Need to Be Special

    Brief Overview: FOURs are feeling-based types who often experience a sense of longing and melancholy. Something is missing for them, which can lead to a quest for wholeness through romantic idealism, healing, or aesthetics. When they compare themselves to others, FOURs experience feelings of envy. They seek meaning and depth in their relationships, their work, or in a quest for personal creativity. Many FOURs are artists who excel at expressing universal human emotions in dance, music, and poetry. While they seek to have a good image, it’s most important for them to be authentic. Often passionate, sometimes overly emotional, their attention moves back and forth from empathizing with others to their own inner experience. They need time alone. The key to healing and growth for FOURs is to balance sadness with the capacity for happiness and satisfaction, even if the relationship or the experience seems flawed or incomplete.

    Directional Descriptor: Withdrawn ideal-seeker

    Strengths: Compassionate, idealistic, emotional depth

    Problems: Moody, withdrawn, uncooperative

    Speaking Style: Sometimes warm and emotive, sometimes flat and dry; they tend to be subjective, and they try to be aesthetically correct; often a tone of sadness or dissatisfaction

    Disintegration: Envy or melancholy arising from the experience of disappointment or deficiency

    Integration: Equanimity, which means keeping the heart open, welcoming all feelings yet staying in balance (contentment)

    Psychological Defenses: FOURs use the defense mechanism of introjection to avoid being ordinary and to maintain a self image of being “authentic” (introjection is the attempt to overcome deficiency by bringing in value from outside oneself as well as the habit of internalizing blame for what goes wrong)

    Somatic Patterns: FOURs tend to swing from contact to withdrawal, from having lots of feelings that spill out into the environment to becoming resigned and depressed. Their energy often collects in the middle of the body and can be withdrawn from the periphery (eyes, hands, and feet). Self-expression through music, dance, writing, creative work or parenting helps create an emotional flow and a balanced state.
    I relate to a lot of this description. I have a tendency to swing between feeling moody, melancholy and emotional to being sharp, clear-minded and aggressive. I want to express myself through music as I have trouble explaining how I feel to other people through words. Authenticity is important to me - for example I am very concerned about being independent and not borrowing from other people's work. I also have an unfortunate habit of telling people exactly what I think about them, even people I don't know well. As my posts around the forum have no doubt indicated, identity-seeking is a big part of my life and something that i am concerned about.

    I do need to balance time i have with other people with time alone, to recharge my batteries and reflect, though this seems to be a pretty basic human need.

    I don't see myself as very compassionate, and dislike the word idealist. I prefer "visionary". Because my Feeling function is drawn inward, I tend to have trouble relating to other people emotionally, though I do feel emotions strongly. I identify with the 4 style of talking, though it probably doesn't come out in my posts (I am trying to practice my course English).

    FTR I do not believe that type 4 is my primary type, but I'm quite sure that it is in my tritype somewhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
    To be honest I am expecting you to turn out to be an INTP or its inverse ENTJ.
    Maybe.
    Last edited by Kullervo; 08-06-2014 at 05:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky13 View Post
    So I'm an INFP 4w3. Explains a lot... didn't seem to be nerdy enough for INTP
    That's called typism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    Type 1 Perfectionism |||||||||||| 42%
    Type 2 Helpfulness |||| 14%
    Type 3 Image Focus |||| 18%
    Type 4 Individualism |||||||||||||| 54%
    Type 5 Intellectualism |||||||||||||||| 70%
    Type 6 Security Focus |||||||||| 38%
    Type 7 Adventurousness |||| 18%
    Type 8 Aggressiveness |||||| 30%
    Type 9 Calmness |||||||||||| 50%

    type score type behavior motivation
    5 17 I must be knowledgeable to survive.
    4 13 I must be unique/different to survive.
    9 12 I must maintain peace/calm to survive.
    1 10 I must be perfect and good to survive.
    6 9 I must be secure and safe to survive.
    8 7 I must be strong and in control to survive.
    3 4 I must be impressive and attractive to survive.
    7 4 I must be fun and entertained to survive.
    2 3 I must be helpful and caring to survive.

    Your main type is Type 5
    Your variant stacking is sp/sx/so
    Your level of health is below average, i.e. unhealthy
    This test is bogus when it comes to determining levels of health. Based on what I read at
    http://similarminds.com/enneagram/type5.html
    Healthy Type 5: The Innovator
    discovers/develops new technologies or systems of thought which are useful to others
    Average Type 5: The Intellectual
    enjoys philosophical discussion/debate, endlessly curious, loves to learn, thoughtful
    Unhealthy Type 5: The Nihilist
    struggles with the meaninglessness of existence, detached, hermetic, cold, devoid of feelings

    I do not struggle with the meaningless of existence; I am not detached, hermetic, cold, or devoid of feelings.

    As for the higher groups, I am somewhat of an innovator of existing thought-systems. But I identify most with the average levels: enjoys philosophical discussion/debate, endlessly curious, loves to learn, thoughtful.
    "Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the mouth." Mike Tyson
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    Your main type is Type 5
    Your level of health is above average
    I'm above average in health. Of course. If SimilarMinds.com says so, it simply must be true.

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    Yeghor i think your theory is genius and that you are definitely on to something here. Don't listen to the nay-sayers. You are ahead of your time, fact, keep going!

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    What do you make of this @yeghor ?

    Type 1 Perfectionism |||||||||||||| 54%
    Type 2 Helpfulness |||||||||||| 46%
    Type 3 Image Focus |||||||||||||||| 66%
    Type 4 Individualism |||||||||||| 46%
    Type 5 Intellectualism |||||||||||||| 58%
    Type 6 Security Focus |||||||||||||| 58%
    Type 7 Adventurousness |||||||||||||| 58%
    Type 8 Aggressiveness |||||||||||||||| 62%
    Type 9 Calmness |||||||||||||||||| 78%

    Your main type is Type 9
    Your variant stacking is sx/so/sp
    Your level of health is above average

    Most answers are easily a 50/50 depending on the situation, but my preferences should show through.
    () 9w8-3w4-7w6 tritype.

    sCueI (primary Inquisition)

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    Quote Originally Posted by silvery sleeves View Post
    Yeghor i think your theory is genius and that you are definitely on to something here. Don't listen to the nay-sayers. You are ahead of your time, fact, keep going!
    according to yeghor you should be an E4 so CHECK YO SELF
    7w6 - 2w3 - 8w7 sx/so


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    Wait, there's something about a test calling people healthy or unhealthy? I'm definitely jumping in on this action.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    I'm above average in health. Of course. If SimilarMinds.com says so, it simply must be true.
    Likewise, it looks like this test is an objective reassurance that I'm pretty perfect. After all, I pursue perfection and am also very healthy.

    My title is also "The Upstanding Citizen." So I guess I'm Superman.

    Man. At the moment, I love typology.

    type score type behavior motivation
    1 21 I must be perfect and good to survive.
    5 18 I must be knowledgeable to survive.
    8 18 I must be strong and in control to survive.
    4 17 I must be unique/different to survive.
    3 14 I must be impressive and attractive to survive.
    7 13 I must be fun and entertained to survive.
    9 12 I must maintain peace/calm to survive.
    2 9 I must be helpful and caring to survive.
    6 3 I must be secure and safe to survive.

    Your main type is Type 1
    Your variant stacking is so/sx/sp
    Your level of health is very high
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chanaynay View Post
    according to yeghor you should be an E4 so CHECK YO SELF
    i should be, and i am

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    Type 1 Perfectionism |||||| 26%
    Type 2 Helpfulness |||||||||||| 50%
    Type 3 Image Focus |||| 18%
    Type 4 Individualism |||||||||||||| 58%
    Type 5 Intellectualism |||||||||||||||| 62%
    Type 6 Security Focus |||||| 30%
    Type 7 Adventurousness |||||| 22%
    Type 8 Aggressiveness |||||| 22%
    Type 9 Calmness |||||||||||||| 54%

    Interesting that it rates "perfectionism" (as a term) so low, since that's something I struggle with. Although it is very clear I'm not at e1. Otherwise, is unsurprising... since tritype-wise I identify as 5-4-9.

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