Oh gee thanks. I retired because I gave up PerC for Lent, but apparently I got banned instead. -_-
yeah, it's all fixed now
ENFP: We put the Fi in Fire
Motivation: Dark Worker
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
MTG Color: black/red
Male Archtype: King/Lover
"You are a gay version of Gambit" Speed Gavroche
"I wish that I could be affected by any hate, but I can't, cuz I just get affected by the bank" Chamillionaire
Re: the bolded. Something I've noticed with the 6 folks in my life is that they're extremely loyal until they're suddenly not. Not totally sure where they draw that line, but it's been pretty jarring whenever I've run into it. (My 1w2 loyalty-dropping is much more predictable: betray me, or otherwise betray the principles which drew me to you in the first place, and you'll lose both my loyalty and my respect.)
This is because we 6s have a sort of love-hate relationship with our loyalties because of our anxiety fixation.
- less magnanimous defender of the weak; more Dothraki barbarian
- more controlling of others
- in the average range: less "I don't mess with you if you don't mess with me" more genuinely sadistic
As a 8w7 I can say none of this even remotely applies to me. Viewing 8's as "barbarians" is hardly any different than the stereotypical notion most have of us, same for being controlling of others.
And I'm guessing you have met mostly unhealthy 8's, because "sadistic" is not how I would describe us. Revengeful, yes, even merciless when we think someone deserves the worst, but not sadistic.
Originally Posted by Animal
I know what you mean. I've known three core 3s well in my life and one is very camera-aware, she's a photographer and model and every angle always looks perfect. I can be like this too, not just about my image, but about any person's image.. or any photo I take of nature, because I am very aware of beauty. Even a picture of a dead cat bleeding out of its eyes will be angled just so; because that is how I see things, I have a natural eye for beauty. It's not about trying to impress.. i have an impulse for things to be beautiful. My room is beautiful with each item placed expressively and meaningfully. I don't even have any local friends since I moved here, so it's beautiful because that is what I want, not because it impresses anybody. I am known in any place I have lived for being that person who unpacked and set up their room or dorm room along with the wall hangings before even sleeping the first night. I *must* be surrounded by beauty and honest self-expression or I cannot be creative in my own space. So this personal expression includes being angled a certain way in the camera.
I'm not sure that's related to Enneagram type. I could have written this myself, word for word, and I'm not a type 3. Granted, the rest of your post focusing on self image concern didn't apply to me but this description of how you see beauty was picth perfect.
he's not immediately identifiable as 2 because
- he is at the bottom of the levels of health for 2
- Sp 2 is the countertype of 2 (much likes Sx 6). the unhealthy Sp 2s act like aggressive, spoiled children demanding the world give them everything they "deserve". this fits Joffrey to a tee
2s are controlling, not aggressive. Unhealthy 2s still worry about driving people away. Joffrey is paranoid about being seen as weak, and terrified by the slightest bit of defiance. He's all talk and the first to wet himself when things get dicey. He's the classic paranoid, overreactive, whiney 6.
Though I'm not really sure what you mean when you talk about sp 2s demanding what they deserve.