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    @Elfboy

    I don't really see sx6 in you. You don't seem to have expressed enough Reactive type sentiments, for one thing. However, I am open to discussion.

    Questions that might help this discussion:
    - In what ways are you aggressive, and what tends to provoke these aggressions?
    - How do you related to type 6/not relate to type 6? How about sx6?
    - Why not 7w8?
    - Tell me why you're not a core 8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanjuro View Post
    I don't really see sx6 in you. You don't seem to have expressed enough Reactive type sentiments, for one thing. However, I am open to discussion.
    good point

    Questions that might help this discussion:
    - In what ways are you aggressive, and what tends to provoke these aggressions?
    for the most part, it goes unspoken and unacted upon. some urges I have are
    - violently abusing my parents (when they're condescending and belligerent)
    - beating the shit out of someone just to prove that I can do it. most of the time, I sit there hoping someone will cross the line. trouble is, people can tell, so they don't (my college has a very polite, friendly atmosphere)
    - part of me is still a spoiled little boy who wants to throw a tantrum and punch someone when he doesn't get his way


    - How do you related to type 6/not relate to type 6? How about sx6?
    some 6-ish traits I possess are
    - heightened sense of danger
    - more prone to self-doubt/self-questioning than a 7w8
    - naturally cowardly/avoidant (I used to get beat up and would just curl into a ball)
    - desire for safety and predictability (though this is partially out of laziness LOL)
    - when I was younger, I lacked courage or assertiveness and was a good little boy because I was afraid of getting in trouble (even compared to other 7w6s, I was pretty compliant)

    at the end of the day, I'm still a scared little kid who wants to become a badass

    - Why not 7w8?
    - Tell me why you're not a core 8.
    my 8-ish tendencies didn't develop until around 14 or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    Overly analytical, yes, but I don't really see you as defensive. You seem more proactive than reactive. That basically takes core 6 off the table.
    ^my opinion

    I never really saw you as aggressive either though. Your energy for me is a lot more calming, but maybe that's because you like me hahah.
    7w6 - 2w3 - 8w7 sx/so


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    i get a 3w4 vibe from you. sx/so.
    You hem me in -- behind and before;
    you have laid your hand upon me.
    Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
    too lofty for me to attain.

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    I voted for sp/sx 7 but I could also see 3 sx/so, not sexual 7 and especially not sx/sp + 7w6 + ENFP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by five sounds View Post
    i get a 3w4 vibe from you. sx/so.
    what about me vibes 3? (I'm like the most non-deceitful person I know)

    @brainheart
    yeah, that makes sense
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    good point
    Yeah, that would be the main thing.

    for the most part, it goes unspoken and unacted upon. some urges I have are
    - violently abusing my parents (when they're condescending and belligerent)
    - beating the shit out of someone just to prove that I can do it. most of the time, I sit there hoping someone will cross the line. trouble is, people can tell, so they don't (my college has a very polite, friendly atmosphere)
    - part of me is still a spoiled little boy who wants to throw a tantrum and punch someone when he doesn't get his way
    Number one doesn't sound type-related, it sounds like you have an aversion to being treated like shit. Do you yell at them, hit them, or just bitch about them, though?
    Number two sounds like some sort of male phenomenon more than a cp6 (or other type-related) thing. Or maybe a human phenomenon in general. Frankly, we're quite repressed in larger society.
    Number three sounds like an id type in general.

    some 6-ish traits I possess are
    - heightened sense of danger
    - more prone to self-doubt/self-questioning than a 7w8
    - naturally cowardly/avoidant (I used to get beat up and would just curl into a ball)
    - desire for safety and predictability (though this is partially out of laziness LOL)
    - when I was younger, I lacked courage or assertiveness and was a good little boy because I was afraid of getting in trouble (even compared to other 7w6s, I was pretty compliant)
    These things could indicate a number of types, IMO. I don't think the cowardliness you speak of in necessarily correlated to 6--their doubts come from their overthinking, not from being afraid of getting beaten up, per se. I also would have guessed most kids are afraid of getting in trouble--I remember feeling this way, but still marveled at how much everyone else seemed to avoid it more than I did. You'll have to tell me about your self-doubts and self-questioning, though, as well as your sense of danger and desire for predictability. How does this show up in your life?

    at the end of the day, I'm still a scared little kid who wants to become a badass
    I'd guess that was true for most of us.

    my 8-ish tendencies didn't develop until around 14 or so.
    When you hit puberty, in other words. All I can say is that other core 8s have reported similar phenomena--they became more warlike around puberty, or else they learned to chill out about things. Changes happen. What would you classify as your "8ish tendencies" right now, though?



    EDIT: Also, I'm following what others are saying--why not core 9? You've talked at great length about how you've got a lower energy level than the hyperactivity most 7s seem to encapsulate, how you're more chill and lazy. I'm actually really interested to know your thoughts on this one.

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    @Sanjuro
    Number one doesn't sound type-related
    I agree

    it sounds like you have an aversion to being treated like shit. Do you yell at them, hit them, or just bitch about them, though?
    I scold them, they ignore me, I scold them again, they ignore me and, finally, I fight the urge to beat the shit out of them because there really isn't a whole lot I can do.

    Number two sounds like some sort of male phenomenon more than a cp6 (or other type-related) thing. Or maybe a human phenomenon in general. Frankly, we're quite repressed in larger society.
    I can agree with that. more specifically, it's a young male phenomenon. I think some degree of it is healthy. it's there because I have little real power, and, it's a necessary fuel for any ambitious young person because it is what propels us to get REAL power.

    Number three sounds like an id type in general.
    imo it sounds mostly 7 or 2

    When you hit puberty, in other words. All I can say is that other core 8s have reported similar phenomena--they became more warlike around puberty, or else they learned to chill out about things.
    this has been my experience with Sexual 6s who type as 8s rather than the real 8s I know, who were mostly delinquent children

    Changes happen. What would you classify as your "8ish tendencies" right now, though?
    - power seeking
    - a bit sadistic (though not enough to type as 8 core/fix/wing)
    - disdain for taking orders or being controlled (which is not exclusively 8. most 7s would report the same feelings)
    - general feeling of "revenge against the world" (as opposed to petty vendettas, which are more 4/6)
    - drive to dominate (sometimes, not always)

    some things which are blatantly not 8
    - a friend brought to my attention that I'm placating when someone comes at me aggressively. most of the time, my thoughts are "they're just pissed. the real issue will be easy to solve once they calm down", then I realize later "that guy was an ass, I should checked his ass WAY harder" (it's no much an unwillingness to use force as much as not realizing when I actually need to. @Starry could have a point, because this sounds like a 9 tendency)
    - I lay low until I know I can win. I'm not going to lie to you or be sneaky or passive aggressive, but I know when I am outmatched and I lack 8's awareness of
    - when someone insults me, my first instinct is "oh dear, I probably did something wrong", which is very 6 (should have mentioned this earlier).
    - I daydream about power far more than actually seeking it (working on this one lol)
    - it's unnatural for me to act on my aggression without knowing what to do first (mature 8s will wait for the right time to strike and not indulge their impulses, but their first pull is still "smash dis bitch!".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    I scold them, they ignore me, I scold them again, they ignore me and, finally, I fight the urge to beat the shit out of them because there really isn't a whole lot I can do.
    Could you be young and hate your parents? Really??



    I can agree with that. more specifically, it's a young male phenomenon. I think some degree of it is healthy. it's there because I have little real power, and, it's a necessary fuel for any ambitious young person because it is what propels us to get REAL power.
    Sure, that's what makes us ambitious enough to leave the home and start our own lives.

    imo it sounds mostly 7 or 2
    Problem solved.

    this has been my experience with Sexual 6s who type as 8s rather than the real 8s I know, who were mostly delinquent children
    8s are inherently criminals. Sx6s are inherently wannabes. I forgot.

    - power seeking
    - a bit sadistic (though not enough to type as 8 core/fix/wing)
    - disdain for taking orders or being controlled (which is not exclusively 8. most 7s would report the same feelings)
    - general feeling of "revenge against the world" (as opposed to petty vendettas, which are more 4/6)
    - drive to dominate (sometimes, not always)
    Tell me about your sadism and vengeance. Also, your domination. What ways does that manifest? I'd think as a 7 (or 9), you'd share enough access to core 8 to see some of this stuff if you look hard enough, but I'm interested in hearing more.

    some things which are blatantly not 8
    - a friend brought to my attention that I'm placating when someone comes at me aggressively. most of the time, my thoughts are "they're just pissed. the real issue will be easy to solve once they calm down", then I realize later "that guy was an ass, I should checked his ass WAY harder" (it's no much an unwillingness to use force as much as not realizing when I actually need to. @Starry could have a point, because this sounds like a 9 tendency)
    - I lay low until I know I can win. I'm not going to lie to you or be sneaky or passive aggressive, but I know when I am outmatched and I lack 8's awareness of
    - when someone insults me, my first instinct is "oh dear, I probably did something wrong", which is very 6 (should have mentioned this earlier).
    - I daydream about power far more than actually seeking it (working on this one lol)
    - it's unnatural for me to act on my aggression without knowing what to do first (mature 8s will wait for the right time to strike and not indulge their impulses, but their first pull is still "smash dis bitch!".
    The only thing I'd say is specifically "not 8" is the bolded.

    - The first point could simply be a matter of overestimating yourself or just not wanting to bother with something petty. If you avoided for the sake of feeling "less than", then I'd say that ruled out 8, but that isn't what you suggested.
    - The second, I'd have guessed that an 8 is capable of laying low, too, if they want an optimal outcome. As I'm learning, 8s are more about SELF INTEREST than about exposing themselves unnecessarily. They are prone to overestimating themselves at times, particularly when unhealthy, but I'd say selfishness and domination (hence, choosing the right moment to strike) is equally 8ish. It would depend on both the individual and the problem in question.
    - Third, I dunno if that's indicative of anything.
    - Daydreaming is part of your psychological structure, too. Take it for what it's worth.
    - The last thing here suggests a head type if anything, because you're relying on the "map" of the terrain, rather than instinct. Still, I wouldn't have said anything ruled out any type specifically.

    I think there's just kind of a myth around type 8, that's all. You don't really strike me as an 8, but it's worth going through how much it plays a role in your life.

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    @Elfboy

    One specific thing that makes me lean away from 7w8 is that particular example of sensitivity you shared with me over Skype (Gentleman Bastard). Honestly, that's something I could never see my 7w8 cousin or uncles ever doing in their life. Frankly, I feel like if they were the same age as you when that happened and witnessed it, they probably would've teased you and called you a pussy. Of course, that doesn't necessarily point away from w8 on its own but just wanted to share my 2 C's.

    Personally, I voted for correctly typed based on the small interaction we had with each other. Sx7w6 seems right to me.

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