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    Yup...that does sound like them, actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    Yup...that does sound like them, actually.
    You're aware that 7 is a core competency type, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by andante View Post
    You're aware that 7 is a core competency type, right?
    OP says that they are not core-competency, nor core reactive, but positive outlook. I'm not too familiar with this at any rate, so I'm just going by what the OP said. I see nothing in the link referring to these categories, by the way.

    And I meant that it probably does describe the personality better than an 8. I can also see how that would be "positive outlook."
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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    OP says that they are not core-competency, nor core reactive, but positive outlook. I'm not too familiar with this at any rate, so I'm just going by what the OP said. I see nothing in the link referring to these categories, by the way.

    And I meant that it probably does describe the personality better than an 8. I can also see how that would be "positive outlook."
    You're right. For some reason I linked the core competency aspect to head types of 5, 6, 7 and core reactive types to gut types of 8, 9 and 1. My error.

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    I don't relate to the OP's description of how 4s are supposed to act. Most of my reactivity is internal, and is only shared with people I feel very comfortable with. I very rarely have emotional outbursts in public. That's a common misconception about 4s, especially 4w5s.

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    I think the reactivity is mostly a constant internal state of the need to be hyper aware of the nature of things around you, and the general mentality that you will never be secure unless you are aware of them. The reaction mostly comes from the general focus to preemptively rid yourself of such an issue in the first place. It is more of a mentality, and as such most things probably don't really warrant such an a thing. It sounds like you are describing a particularly manic 6.

    I'm sorry if it's vague, I'm trying to figure out the real issue behind the reactive type, but I get all sorts of ways it could apply to other types to.

    Besides I'm probably more reactive in that way than most 8/4's at least. I can be pretty explosively mean, with a quick temper and a great deal of frustration when I'm getting bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    I dislike dealing with reactive types at work, I think. They don't understand that being aggressive or demanding is often counterproductive way to resolve these kinds of problems. It lowers my respect for someone, and does not increase it. And being demanding and just talking anxiously and not listening to what I am saying does not help communication, which is frequently a contributor to further problems down the line.
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    it's probably the 1 fix, but yeah, I look down on reactive types, at least ones who have poor self control, explode on people or resort to constant testing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanjuro View Post
    Positive outlook types, though...to be perfectly honest, I do tend to find *some* representatives of this triad can't face reality, which I personally tend to look down on. I know the feeling has been mutual. I know that's not the question, but I kind of wonder if we tend to look down on others who manage conflicts differently (not just competency vs reactive types)?
    guilty as charged, and it makes perfect sense you would look down on it (I'm frustrated by it myself).
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    Quote Originally Posted by andante View Post
    You're aware that 7 is a core competency type, right?
    no. it isn't.

    competency: 1, 3, 5
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    I never scream at people... it doesn't work and it undermines all of the other work that I do, so there's no point to it really

    I WILL rant to my supervisors about shit that needs to be fixed, but I don't do that unless I have a solution ready that will fix the situation. Yeah, I'll get mad and I may speak very quickly and use a lot of hand gestures, but it's because I'm displeased with someone else's incompetence and want the permission to fix the situation or the equipment that I need to do so. One of my supervisors is a competence type (type 1) and has told me several times that he appreciates my honesty and willingness to tackle sticky problems and that I DO care about fixing them. He's shown enough trust to give me quite a bit of power over the organization and planning of the area I work in most frequently even though people several pay grades up usually make those decisions.

    Not to mention that I was raised by a 1 and a 5, both competency types, and they still seem to love me AND like me as well

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