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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great One View Post
    I'm noticing that core competency types tend to hate core reactive types. When faced with stress, I'm noticing that core competency types tend to remain very cool, calm, and collect. They tend to be calm and assertive when handling confrontation as well. Core reactive types tend to be just the opposite: they tend to go ballistic, they tend to be very manic, they test people, and they tend to be the types to scream at people when faced with a great deal of stress. I'm seeing that competency types hate this about reactive types, and they tend to look down on reactive types for this reason. Has anyone else noticed this, or am I way off in left field with this one?

    EDIT: Just in case know one knows what I am talking about, the competency types are 1, 3, and 5, and the core reactive types are 6, 4, and 8.
    I havn't really ever screamed at anyone. I scream in my car. ha ha...so no one knows that I'm screaming. If I feel the need to slam something then I warn people. But if I had to guess I'd say I have anger issues. Not sure most 6's are as angry as I am.

    Also if I'm being really reactive....I don't have time to sit there and think "I'm gonna test this person." I don't think I test people unless I'm unconscious of the fact that I do. I think I need examples.

    My sister, however, has gotten up in my face before though. She's an E8 and she is very quick to still do that. She'll do that with anyone I think.

    4's don't even seem reactive to me. Any 4 I know...just gets overwhelmed and I leave the alone. Then they're fine. I can't see a 4 doing those things.

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    I'm an alleged core competency type. I hate overreaction, and my threshold for what is overreaction is unrealistically low.

    Soo.. you're kinda spot on, maybe?

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    I dislike dealing with reactive types at work, I think. They don't understand that being aggressive or demanding is often counterproductive way to resolve these kinds of problems. It lowers my respect for someone, and does not increase it. And being demanding and just talking anxiously and not listening to what I am saying does not help communication, which is frequently a contributor to further problems down the line.

    Interestingly, a lot of the people I talk to probably are 4s and 8s, given what they do. Copywriters and salespeople probably correspond pretty well. Interesting how Enneagram types might very well segregate by job... I'm certainly not the only 5 in my department.
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    I think maybe this whole "reactive" thing would fit better if you exclude 6w5s and/or phobic 6s. I'm seriously one of the least "reactive" people I know (as you describe it here), and I don't respond well at all to people getting angry without a really good reason. I don't think I've ever screamed at someone as an adult, and if someone screams at me, I'm out of there. I've noticed the other 6w5s around here are similar.

    Counterphobic 6w7s I can imagine being reactive, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    I dislike dealing with reactive types at work, I think. They don't understand that being aggressive or demanding is often counterproductive way to resolve these kinds of problems. It lowers my respect for someone, and does not increase it. And being demanding and just talking anxiously and not listening to what I am saying does not help communication, which is frequently a contributor to further problems down the line.

    Interestingly, a lot of the people I talk to probably are 4s and 8s, given what they do. Copywriters and salespeople probably correspond pretty well. Interesting how Enneagram types might very well segregate by job... I'm certainly not the only 5 in my department.
    I don't like dealing with things in a confrontational manner either. I interact with plenty of 4s and 8s as well as other types who might be more aggressive or demanding with the way they problem solve, and that makes me cling to the logical approach even more, refusing to drag my emotions into an already tense situation.

    Totally feel you on the grouping of certain types in certain jobs. I think that's one of the most tangible things for me when I think about feeling like I need a job change. I look around me and think, oh gosh these are not my people. I probably work with a lot of 1s, 2s, and 6s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    Interestingly, a lot of the people I talk to probably are 4s and 8s, given what they do. Copywriters and salespeople probably correspond pretty well. Interesting how Enneagram types might very well segregate by job... I'm certainly not the only 5 in my department.
    Not sure about copywriters but sales lean 7 since they're gregarious, not 8s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andante View Post
    Not sure about copywriters but sales lean 7 since they're gregarious, not 8s.
    That might be it....they would be positive outlook, then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolita View Post
    I don't like dealing with things in a confrontational manner either. I interact with plenty of 4s and 8s as well as other types who might be more aggressive or demanding with the way they problem solve, and that makes me cling to the logical approach even more, refusing to drag my emotions into an already tense situation.
    I wonder if they got bothered by calmness back, because that means to them that you aren't taking it seriously enough.
    [Trump's] rhetoric is not an abuse of power. In the same way that it's also not against the law to do a backflip off of the roof of your house onto your concrete driveway. It's just mind-numbingly stupid and, to say the least, counterproductive. - Bush did 9-11


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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    That might be it....they would be positive outlook, then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    I wonder if they got bothered by calmness back, because that means to them that you aren't taking it seriously enough.
    probably. i do try to acknowledge their emotions, because i believe their feelings are genuine. and you know Fi, i really do respect the way they feel. but yeah, i just can't do things like that. it stresses me out, and like you said, it's never productive aside from venting (which i want to allow them to do, but i prefer to do in other ways).
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