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    Default Types at work.

    This thread really could go in any general personality forum and can be discussed easily with no mention of letters or numbers, but I'm going to put it in Enneagram because that is where I spend most of my time and am most interested in.

    Anyway. What holds more weight in reading someone's true personality: how you are at home or in casual situations with friends and intimates, or how you carry yourself at work and/or school? Or, both or neither, especially seeing as some types develop bigger work/home life splits in their manner than others? The common meme is that you should go by how you are when you are free to let your hair down, but I'm not sure. How you face a system and choose whether and how to work within it speaks a hell of a lot about your character, IMHO (Hmm...what is the relationship between personality and character?). For instance, you could have two twin sisters who are equally outspoken and aggressive among family members, but when they go off to high school, one of them clams up and quietly follows the rules, and the other one remains a rebel wherever she goes. Something is essentially different between these two.

    Of course, this raises the old question of how much behavior means.
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    I think both faces are me. And the older I get, the more those two faces (how I am at home and how I am at school or work) become similar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Webslinger View Post
    Anyway. What holds more weight in reading someone's true personality: how you are at home or in casual situations with friends and intimates, or how you carry yourself at work and/or school? Or, both or neither, especially seeing as some types develop bigger work/home life splits in their manner than others? The common meme is that you should go by how you are when you are free to let your hair down, but I'm not sure. How you face a system and choose whether and how to work within it speaks a hell of a lot about your character, IMHO (Hmm...what is the relationship between personality and character?). For instance, you could have two twin sisters who are equally outspoken and aggressive among family members, but when they go off to high school, one of them clams up and quietly follows the rules, and the other one remains a rebel wherever she goes. Something is essentially different between these two.
    I would say the real "you" is how you are when under the fewest constraints, whether that be at home, work, school, or elsewhere. People will adjust their behavior especially to the demands of workplaces, teachers, even parents/family. One is usually advised therefore to answer test questions as if one could do what one really wants, not what one must to satisfy a boss, get good grades, etc.

    It should be noted that people of the same type can behave very differently, as with your example of sisters handling school differently. Their experiences (external influences) won't be identical: different teachers, courses, friends, even different perspectives based on all the small differences throughout their lives.
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    I feel like certain types are less likely to put on "faces", especially when they're young.

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    @Coriolis and anyone else who is interested: What do you think determines whether a person more or less willing to contradict what they truly want or think under pressure, to act as somebody they're not (or on the milder and more mature end, just be more willing than others to adapt their presentation to their environment)?

    Many things for sure. I see it as a combination of more or less of each of these general factors combined: one's inborn level of sensitivity to physical and social signals, whether they were raised to see the products of their own mind as valid, and their learned capacity to validate themselves. It may or may not factor into type, more so if the person is heavy on the inborn or earlier childhood factors. But it's hard to tell just how somebody grew more flexible or stolid unless you know them quite intimately...if anyone can, it's most likely themselves.
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    personally speaking, at work i'm mostly stressed or heavy on Te, which is not my preferred function. and i have to ignore Fi. so i never feel completely myself at work, i feel like a machine-side of myself. i'm most myself when i'm relaxed, and particularly with the people that i like around me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkgraffiti View Post
    personally speaking, at work i'm mostly stressed or heavy on Te, which is not my preferred function. and i have to ignore Fi. so i never feel completely myself at work, i feel like a machine-side of myself. i'm most myself when i'm relaxed, and particularly with the people that i like around me.
    How do you manage that? I feel very escapist tendencies at work, and I don't think that's a healthy state for me to perpetually be in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolita View Post
    How do you manage that? I feel very escapist tendencies at work, and I don't think that's a healthy state for me to perpetually be in.
    yeah well, i'm not always happy.
    i have temporary solutions that revolve around trying to meet new people at work and cracking jokes with co-workers, to listening to music. actually, i'm not being correct: my job is heavy on Te and Si and a bit of Ne as well.
    it's really just the suppression of Fi that makes me sad sometimes. so when i get home i try to be with the people i like. if i had a particularly stressful day at work i might open a beer....i don't know.
    you know what? my problem is that i didn't choose a job in the humanities, that could fit with my personality or with what i was good with (i was good at history, languages and writing). instead, i chose a job in the sciences, because i found it to be personally more challenging and also more motivating for me. this is good because i'm always learning new things at work, and i always strive to surpass my difficulties... but at the same time it's challenging and sometimes it makes me feel like i'm not good enough.
    i still haven't figured out if this is my ideal job or what my goal in life is. and i have no concrete answers for you. but i guess as long as the positives surpass the negatives, i'm still in.

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    Ha, when I have a tough job to do that allows no escape, I go into full-speed survival mode. It's the kind of very nervous but very stern energy that enables a small mother to lift a car off her child. I don't perceive any fatigue until it's done. I may not even remember much of that day, but I can rest assured that a lot of shit got done, really fast. Rest is all I can do anyway, because my energy reserves are empty and creaking for mercy when I get home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkgraffiti View Post
    it's really just the suppression of Fi that makes me sad sometimes. so when i get home i try to be with the people i like.
    Ew, I know. Finding a job that doesn't encourage you to do that is a trick. I have a good one now, but some former ones left me like that, too, except the person I was most eager to be with again when I got home was myself.
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