User Tag List

123 Last

Results 1 to 10 of 39

  1. #1
    Stansmith
    Guest

    Default Happiest Types in the Enneagram

    1 - 9w8; it's amazing how peaceful they are. Male 9w8s have the appeal of a 3w4 without even trying.

    2 - 7w6

    3 - 3w2; they sure look happy.

    4 - 9w1

    5 - 2w3

    6 - 7w8; I've noticed alot of them can get into some really dark phases, especially with drugs and alcohol. They seem like they have a much higher dopamine tolerance than 7w6s.

    7 - 8w7

    8 - 3w4; I get the vibe that they're actually pretty melancholy/dead inside despite all of their achievements.

    9 - 2w1`

    10 - 8w9

    11 - 5w6

    12 - 5w4

    13 - 1w2

    14 - 1w9

    15 - 4w3

    16 - 4w5

    17 - 6w7

    18 - 6w5

  2. #2
    i love skylights's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    MBTI
    INFP
    Enneagram
    6w7 so/sx
    Socionics
    EII Ne
    Posts
    7,835

    Default

    I was a happier type before all of the negativity you have sent 6's way!

    Genuinely, though, it is becoming frustrating to keep reading. I feel like much of the perspective you have on 6s is very personally colored and perhaps something of a projection; it is noticeably ranked the lowest and worst by you in multiple posts and threads. Certainly being a 6 is not the most rosy-colored of the enneatypes, but nor is it quite such sturm und drang.

    Moreover - as EJCC said (I have edited, thus have read her post below prior to writing this), (holistic) happiness and well-adjustedness are not type related; they have to do with levels of health.

    Plus, "happiness" is a bit of a vague measure. Are we talking who comes off the happiest seeming, or who experiences the most positive emotion, or who is most content, or who reports the most satisfaction with their lives?

    My little brother is a 9w8 and while he's pretty easygoing and content, I'm not sure I really see him falling in that top category, either. I just really don't think it has nearly as much to do with type as health, and even then it's not really "happiness" as much as contentment/fulfillment. And variant and MBTI are significant too, because those will both affect emotional processing and outward demonstration.

    I'm just not sure about this whole thing overall, but I hope you will consider seeking out more neutral perspectives on type 6, if nothing else.

  3. #3
    this is my winter song EJCC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    MBTI
    ESTJ
    Enneagram
    173 so/sx
    Posts
    18,448

    Default

    Why do you constantly feel the need to create hierarchies of which types are "better"/"worse", with your type as the worst in whatever category?

    Happiness and well-adjustedness are not type related at all.
    ~ g e t f e s t i v e ! ~


    EJCC: "The Big Questions in my life right now: 1) What am I willing to live with? 2) What do I have to live with? 3) What can I change for the better?"
    Coriolis: "Is that the ESTJ Serenity Prayer?"



    ESTJ - LSE - ESTj (mbti/socionics)
    1w2/7w6/3w4 so/sx (enneagram)
    want to ask me something? go for it!

  4. #4
    Riva
    Guest

    Default

    Although e4s (esp 4w5s) seem sad and probably are, if i'm not mistaken they enjoy the feeling of sadness. So by theory they probably feel thrilled to be depressed. I think they deserve the top spot. E6s are more worried than sad.

  5. #5
    The High Priestess Amargith's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    MBTI
    Enfp
    Enneagram
    497 sx/so
    Socionics
    IEE Fi
    Posts
    14,658

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Riva View Post
    Although e4s (esp 4w5s) seem sad and probably are, if i'm not mistaken they enjoy the feeling of sadness. So by theory they probably feel thrilled to be depressed. I think they deserve the top spot. E6s are more worried than sad.
    Ehh...we aint inhuman. Depression is something that is horrendous for any person, as much as we might try and make the best of it coz we feel we dont deserve better.
    ★ڿڰۣ✿ℒoѵℯ✿ڿڰۣ★





    "Harm none, do as ye will”

  6. #6
    Stansmith
    Guest

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Riva View Post
    Although e4s (esp 4w5s) seem sad and probably are, if i'm not mistaken they enjoy the feeling of sadness. So by theory they probably feel thrilled to be depressed. I think they deserve the top spot. E6s are more worried than sad.
    Existential fear is much scarier and all-encompassing than shame IMO. Shame is living in the past constantly, fear is living in a dreadful, narcotic, inevitable future and eventually, death.

    Object attatchment triad also sucks, because its almost impossible to picture yourself existing outside of society's preconceived notions for how one should live (standards which will never satisfy you or bring you truly memorable life experiences). A 4w3 writes plays with blunt confidence, a 7w8 throws a party, a 6 works a corporate job that he secretly hates and comes home to a tub of Haagen-Daaz thinking about what he's gonna do 20 years from now for 6 hours before he has to go to sleep.

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    MBTI
    INFJ
    Enneagram
    5 sx
    Posts
    506

    Default

    As others have said, type doesn't determine a person's potential for happiness. Look at the self-actualization triangle:



    Basic needs: not related to typology at all. As for social (belongingness and love) needs, here are some examples of interpersonal issues common to each type:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean Moonshine (1, 4, 5) and Enneagram Institute (2, 3)
    Ones: Ones are not only aware of the flaws they see embedded in the very structure of reality, but also, by extension, of the flaws they see in others...Ones tend to focus their reform efforts on those they love. These reform efforts are a sign of the One's love, but can, paradoxically, cause others to feel unloved, as though they were simply never quite good enough for the One... Ones are quite hard on themselves, also.

    Twos: In the average to unhealthy Levels, Twos present a false image of being completely generous and unselfish and of not wanting any kind of pay-off for themselves, when in fact, they can have enormous expectations and unacknowledged emotional needs.

    Threes: Everyone needs attention, encouragement, and the affirmation of their value in order to thrive, and Threes are the type which most exemplifies this universal human need... They want success because they are afraid of disappearing into a chasm of emptiness and worthlessness: without the increased attention and feeling of accomplishment which success usually brings, Threes fear that they are nobody and have no value.

    Fours: …as those in the Four’s life are frequently unaware of the inner chain of connections which has given rise to the Four’s current emotional state, there tends to be an unpredictable quality to intimate relations with Fours. Fours are often in search of the perfect lover, someone who will rescue them from their self-absorption, but as they have high expectations of lovers, suffer from a sense of shame, and easily feel misunderstood, love relationships seldom progress smoothly.

    Fives: Fives tend to withhold themselves from others, from emotional involvement and sometimes from life itself... [Many fives] never truly share the depth or uniqueness of their being even in the context of their closest personal relationships. Their fear gets in the way.
    I'd go on, but I think it's obvious that none of these struggles are necessarily more difficult. It depends on the individual, and the same goes for the upper-tier needs. Anyway, how would ranking types like this be beneficial? It would only be discouraging if people took it seriously and used it as another excuse to limit themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Riva View Post
    Although e4s (esp 4w5s) seem sad and probably are, if i'm not mistaken they enjoy the feeling of sadness. So by theory they probably feel thrilled to be depressed. I think they deserve the top spot. E6s are more worried than sad.
    Depression isn't the same as sadness, and it's as unwanted and deadening for e4s as it is for anyone else. Do you really think that some people genuinely enjoy an illness characterized by a lessened ability to enjoy anything at all?

  8. #8
    i love skylights's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    MBTI
    INFP
    Enneagram
    6w7 so/sx
    Socionics
    EII Ne
    Posts
    7,835

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Stansmith View Post
    a 6 works a corporate job that he secretly hates and comes home to a tub of Haagen-Daaz thinking about what he's gonna do 20 years from now for 6 hours before he has to go to sleep.


    I guess we're not going the route of seeking more neutral perceptions on 6, then. I'm not saying there's no grain of truth to it, but it's very limited, and I'm unclear on how it's benefitting anyone's understanding to continue framing the type in a negative, stunted representation when there is a very broad and varied swathe of personal conditions within that type category.

    Yes, the tendency to linger in a stable but unfulfilling situation is a pitfall for 6s - but so is unforgiving self-criticism for 1s (having a great job and being unable to enjoy it because you are so focused on everything you may do "wrong"); so is not meeting one's own needs for 2s (they can give and give all day and still come home empty); so is not fulfilling one's own dreams for 3s (you finally got that high-ranking position and you're still fighting for the next rung); and so on.

    Even those "happiest" types - 9w8 can mask aggression and hostility under complacency, 7w6 can be so neurotic and flighty they can barely keep themselves afloat, 3w2 can be almost sociopathic in their facade of people pleasing belying a hard inner shell, 9w1 can be incredibly repressed and alienated under the guise of peaceful aloofness, 2w3 can be extremely insecure and attention-obsessed, and so on down.

  9. #9
    my floof is luxury Wind Up Rex's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    MBTI
    ENTJ
    Enneagram
    853 sx/sp
    Posts
    4,981

    Default

    Id say 7w8 or 9w8. @Stansmith, you're smoking something if you think 3s are happy people.

    (And it's probably not as marvelously dank as the rasta man in your avie)
    And so long as you haven’t experienced this: to die and so to grow,
    you are only a troubled guest on the dark earth

  10. #10
    Undisciplined Starry's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    5,628

    Default

    @Stansmith

    With all the misconceptions surrounding e7...I realize what I will say here will be rejected prior to even typing it out...but I'm not even remotely convinced you are in fact a 6 but rather a 7w6 (probably with a counterphobic wing)...or possibly a 9w8. Strangely two of the types you've sorta glorified as being in perpetual states of ecstasy.

Similar Threads

  1. The Hardest Type to be in The Enneagram
    By Stansmith in forum Enneagram
    Replies: 453
    Last Post: 07-19-2017, 05:23 AM
  2. Expressions of Type in the Workplace
    By Totenkindly in forum Popular Culture and Type
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 04-04-2012, 01:12 PM
  3. Put your type in the best light
    By Laurie in forum Myers-Briggs and Jungian Cognitive Functions
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 12-08-2010, 07:26 PM
  4. stats on type in the workplace
    By sculpting in forum Myers-Briggs and Jungian Cognitive Functions
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 05-19-2009, 10:58 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO