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    I like disentegrating to 1 it breaks the delusional 7 fantasy and I can actually do work.

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    I don't like it. However it has preceded breaking points of self awareness in the past. The last time I felt I was going in that direction, I distracted myself as best I could before confronting the issue head on (minus the complete disintegration). I do however think it's healthy for someone to become more self aware and introspective if they've the propensity for that to begin with. To be honest, my disintegration point is an 8 and it feels completely off, I get more confused and in pain internally though outwardly I appear like a jerk face. :p
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    I'm not a fan. I feel I like I primarily have the more negative characteristics of an 8... I get short tempered, confrontational, and insensitive.

    It's interesting because I live with an 8w7. And when I start to disintegrate/get stressed out we do NOT get a long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Time View Post
    If you disintegrate enough, do you become the next in the disintegration line?
    I wondered about that question myself. What do others think? :p


    Quote Originally Posted by Such Irony View Post
    For the most part I like type 7's. The 7's I know are fun to be around, have a great sense of humor, and don't take life too seriously. On the downside, I don't like 7's when they are unhealthy and end up being unreliable, or overly impulsive and deny all problems.
    Do you ever get like that if you're a 5 disintegrating?


    Quote Originally Posted by NK258 View Post
    I don't like it. However it has preceded breaking points of self awareness in the past. The last time I felt I was going in that direction, I distracted myself as best I could before confronting the issue head on (minus the complete disintegration). I do however think it's healthy for someone to become more self aware and introspective if they've the propensity for that to begin with. To be honest, my disintegration point is an 8 and it feels completely off, I get more confused and in pain internally though outwardly I appear like a jerk face. :p
    Why does it feel "completely off" and confusing?


    Quote Originally Posted by Showbread View Post
    I'm not a fan. I feel I like I primarily have the more negative characteristics of an 8... I get short tempered, confrontational, and insensitive.

    It's interesting because I live with an 8w7. And when I start to disintegrate/get stressed out we do NOT get a long.
    Haha I imagined that now...


    As for original topic

    Disintegration sounds like it's supposed to be unpleasant, but do you feel a paradoxical liking for your disintegration point? Do you feel tempted to slip into it just because you think it's more effective or easy or attractive than your integration point? Do you tend to like or dislike people who are the same enneagram as your disintegration point?
    I'm supposed to disintegrate into 5. Yes I've had some liking for some 5-ish stuff. I don't however like it *that* much overall.

    It's effective to an extent, sure, if I get into new knowledge that then I can use. It can give a lot of power really. Also a deeper view of the world, maybe. That can feel rewarding too.

    Now for the negative; too much 5 feels like it's killing me. No longer alive, no longer connected to the world, just meh. It's not attractive at all.

    The period of my life where I was really 5-ish about a decade ago, it was me partially recovering from some issue, regaining some of my energy and learning a new language, which later certainly helped me a lot (the language knowledge I mean). So I guess I got out of it with a certain balance of results, part negative (some 5-ish issues that stayed for a while afterwards), part positive (the language).

    I don't have a problem with 5's in general, I think. I know someone who types as 5 and we get along really well (she's got 8 too a lot though. I sometimes wonder if she's just disintegrated lol).

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    @valaki because it's not me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NK258 View Post
    @valaki because it's not me.
    split personality? lol

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    I've disentegrated to 4 at several times in my life. It's terrible, I hate it, and I hate admitting it too. I become really shitty to be around as well and I try and avoid others as much as possible so they don't have to deal with me. I try and hide as hard as I can because it is really one of the last ways I would ever want to be seen in. It's worse too because I more or less become something I despise in others; a mopey inconsolible mess seeing nothing but doooooooom with no hope of rescue and is completely incapable of doing anything productive and refuses to help themselves but pretends that they are to garner sympathy. Godbless the poor soul who tries to help, because it won't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valaki View Post
    split personality? lol
    Lol! .. no. Just not me as in stressed and out of balance. Not who I want to be. Not the me that is (and has been) a constant throughout my life. If that makes any sense. Not so sure myself. Scary. Lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NK258 View Post
    Lol! .. no. Just not me as in stressed and out of balance. Not who I want to be. Not the me that is (and has been) a constant throughout my life. If that makes any sense. Not so sure myself. Scary. Lol!
    OK I see I guess you have a very strong sense of self identity

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    Quote Originally Posted by valaki View Post
    OK I see I guess you have a very strong sense of self identity
    Well, I know who I want to be. Not sure if that's the same but, either way, I work towards being healthy and happy and so it's only natural to despise my disintegrated self.
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