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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    8s think they're awesome, but usually suck.

    6s think they suck, but are usually awesome.

    If only we could be so delusional about our self-worth...
    Me + Positive outlook = god

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stansmith View Post
    Me + Positive outlook = god
    i dun get it
    There can’t be any large-scale revolution until there’s a personal revolution, on an individual level. It’s got to happen inside first.
    -Jim Morrison

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stansmith View Post
    Me + Positive outlook = god
    Until others start resenting you for it...

    And then the paranoia starts...

    And the questioning of how/whether you should tone it down.
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    "I trust what you are doing though…I just see it a little differently.
    I don’t see it as you stepping away from the fire. I see it as the fire directing your course.
    No matter how airy or earthy or watery you become... to many of us you will always be...a super nova."

    "Behind these gates of seeming warmth sits, loosely chained, a fierce attack dog. Perhaps not crazy, but dangerous"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    i dun get it
    I do.
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    "I trust what you are doing though…I just see it a little differently.
    I don’t see it as you stepping away from the fire. I see it as the fire directing your course.
    No matter how airy or earthy or watery you become... to many of us you will always be...a super nova."

    "Behind these gates of seeming warmth sits, loosely chained, a fierce attack dog. Perhaps not crazy, but dangerous"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I do.
    oh goody! what then?
    There can’t be any large-scale revolution until there’s a personal revolution, on an individual level. It’s got to happen inside first.
    -Jim Morrison

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    i dun get it
    I've got a relatively good hand in life (I could be starving or missing a limb), so as a positive-outlook e-type I'd be pretty damn happy about alot of things. As a 6 I feel like I'm just wasting and under appreciating it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stansmith View Post
    The consensus seems to be that 4s have it the hardest but honestly, being a 4 seems like a piece of cake from my perspective. Being a phobic NF 6 is hell; you don't know what you want, you're plain, you're boring, a coward, you feel ugly, everything scares you, you feel like you're on a one-way trip to oblivion every consecutive day. You go through a mid-life crisis by the time you reach puberty. Unlike 4s, we don't like feeling this way. We don't make classic indie albums or pretty art house films out of our suffering, we fear it and don't know what to do with it.

    Of course, all types can be insecure and indecisive, but for 6s, that's what average level looks like. Every other type at average level is either likeable, interesting or feels good about themselves (even if it's detrimental), whereas average 6s are just passive-aggressive neurotic plain janes who life life in fear 24/7.

    Heres how the other types at average health compare:

    1 - Decisive, they know exactly what they want and how they want to live their lives.

    2 - Positive outlook. They're charitable, have great social skills and people like them.

    3 - They enjoy hard work, thus achieve status easily. Everyone envies them, they get all the ho's, they're focused. Not a single day goes by where their ego isn't stroked. They're great, and they know it. I doubt their farts even smell bad.

    4 - Sure, they torture themselves with emotion, but this feels good to them. It gives them a sense of purpose, it makes them feel unique. With 6s its just pure, inescapable dread that you just wish would end. They're also creative, unique and stand out, and never put a filter on their imagination. We're plain janes compared to them.

    Having an identity and a solid perception of who you are>>>>>>>Being a boring confused mess

    5 - They're intellegent and decisive

    7 - They're positive-outlook, assertive, confident and they're always having fun without fear. They never dwell on anything. They contribute energy to a group dynamic.

    8 - They're assertive, aggressive and confident.

    9 - Positive outlook. People like them and they never worry about anything.


    There's literally no positive twist you can give to being an average-level phobic NF 6, we pretty much have to be at extremely healthy levels to enjoy our lives and stand out as people. We're the guys rappers are reffering to when they talk about "b-tch n-ggas". Being an NT or SJ 6 is probably alright in comparison. I'm sure some people "like" us, but we're too insecure to even see that or accept it for what it is (the same goes for any positive trait or talent that we may have), and that's why I say it's a sh-tty existence.
    Ok, first off, I'm proud of you for being open, and honest, and vulnerable enough to write what you have above.

    Second, sack the fuck up. Eminem and Tupac are/were both enneagram 6s, so we ain't just a bunch of [punks].

    Lastly, every type has it hard. Maybe some more than others, maybe not. The research I've done has actually shown 4s, 5s, and 6s to have it hardest.
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    "I trust what you are doing though…I just see it a little differently.
    I don’t see it as you stepping away from the fire. I see it as the fire directing your course.
    No matter how airy or earthy or watery you become... to many of us you will always be...a super nova."

    "Behind these gates of seeming warmth sits, loosely chained, a fierce attack dog. Perhaps not crazy, but dangerous"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    "Without any true pangs of introspection..."

    What the hell does that mean?

    Cuz, from where I stand, that makes you sound like you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
    "Pang - A sudden sharp pain or painful emotion."

    I don't believe the thinking sixes do is frequently introverted on itself, it doesn't focus on the nature of the innervation, say as you'd find in a four. I think the worry manifests externally for many sixes, much like a form of paranoia or hypochondria would.

    IE sixes have trouble relating phenomena back to themselves. They find solace in external reparations.

    I'm not completely knocking this, cuz I do believe in growth, but...

    You do realize you're telling someone from the head center to think more...

    A *huge* part of our problem is that we think too much, creating something out of nothing.

    The key to moving towards health for a 6 is... well, complex.... I'll report back when I have a better understanding of it.
    Meditation is a form of thinking. Not all forms are equal in utility.

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    I wouldn't say that 9's never worry about anything, it's just that we tend to be highly conflict avoidant, whether that be an overdue parking fine we're ignoring or an actual argument. We're pretty good at pretending things didn't happen and burying our heads in the sand, which can make for some spectacularly bad decisions and outcomes.

    Terrible things happen to good people every day.
    Consequentially, I am not one of the good people.
    I am one of the terrible things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    oh goody! what then?
    If I could just maintain a positive attitude, I would be damn near invincible.

    My biggest stumbling block to that, tho, is just my dumb ass self getting in my own way.

    Granted, I think I might be neurologically wired to be predisposed toward paranoia/getting in my own way (excess norepinephrine [essentially, adrenaline]).

    But if I ever just actually allow/make myself maintain a positive attitude, no matter what I'm doing (work, sports, going out), I fucking kill it.

    Maintaining that positive attitude is tough, tho; there are so many things trying to bring/tear it down.
    The Justice Fighter

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    "I trust what you are doing though…I just see it a little differently.
    I don’t see it as you stepping away from the fire. I see it as the fire directing your course.
    No matter how airy or earthy or watery you become... to many of us you will always be...a super nova."

    "Behind these gates of seeming warmth sits, loosely chained, a fierce attack dog. Perhaps not crazy, but dangerous"

    The Aggressive 6
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