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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    I disagree with this.
    I think your entire construction is retarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I think your entire construction is retarded.
    oh really? could you explain rather than be condescending?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    oh really? could you explain rather than be condescending?
    Can you think without slapping together a bunch of crap that shouldn't be slapped together?

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    But yeah, 3=extrinsic in heart vs. 7=extrinsic in head is a good sum up. I like the chart Mane posted too. I fit more of 7 but some of the 3 stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Can you think without slapping together a bunch of crap that shouldn't be slapped together?
    it's not a hard visual model to grasp.

    my main point was that both 7s and 8s typically relate least to the heart triad
    7: head>gut>heart
    8: gut>head>heart

    both 7s and 8s have shallow emotional affect and experience emotions less strongly than other types. issues of self worth or guilt are typically foreign to them.
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    I disagree about making any claims on the order of preference when it comes to tritype. I'm head > gut > heart and I'm a type 5, the most removed from gut. On the question whether I am? Yes, clearly, but motivationally, gut fix takes precedence over heart. Unless we see some tangible statistics (unlikely to ever happen), I really doubt the validity of assuming people should or be anything at all of any order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by decrescendo View Post
    Why are the members of the Attachment Group the only ones that are connected to their respective triads twice, when they're supposed to be the most detached from their triads?

    For example, 9 is at the center of the gut triad, which has been labelled Intrinsic. If 9 is double-intrinsic, why are they said to be the most out of touch their gut?
    Because of the Law of Three. @Dying Acedia wrote a thread about this.

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    I want to be cool and succesful, and I want to have fun and achieve greatness. I still can't choose after reading through this thread.

    If it means anything, I always present myself in a very composed, calculated manner body-language wise, even when I'm excited. I never really bounce off walls in the physical sense.

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    ^ Crazy guess: 3-7-1 tritype
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    This is one question I've had myself, and one question for which I've never felt I had quite a sufficient answer.

    I don't have a strong enough understanding of why whomever (Riso & Hudson? Others?) has posited that types at the center of their instinctual triad are the least connected with their center say this is supposedly so.

    Personally, as a 6, I don't feel particularly disconnected with my thoughts.*

    *I just feel like I've got tons of thoughts, and that, frankly, my thinking is more pure than, say, the thinking of a 5, which, imo, is improperly connected with their gut (i.e., my thinking is more purely systemic, and thus objective, whereas their thinking gets mixed up with their gut [i.e., the Intrinsic], and thus often becomes tainted with a lack of objectivity).

    Do 9s actually feel that disconnected from their gut?

    Do 3s feel that disconnected from their heart/image?

    Naranjo said of Riso & Hudson that they added stuff to the theory that he didn't particularly agree with.

    I don't know if this is one of those things, or what.

    Also (and this is my last thought on the matter [and perhaps the answer is as simple as this]): being in the center of one's triad is like being in the eye of the hurricane -- while you might be right in the middle of it, you're, at the same time, oddly, in a certain way, not experiencing it.
    Using the example of 9s again -- maybe it's that they may become overwhelmed with the intrinsic and, having nowhere else to go, detach. Whereas the other gut types have a foot in another world that they can escape to without having to shut down. But I don't know if that makes sense; I don't know what a 3 detaching from the extrinsic would look like, or a 6 detaching from the systemic, though those are very vague ideas

    (actually, as a 6, I can kind of see how anxiety/paranoia relates to being overwhelmed by and then detaching from systemic thinking...I just don't know how to explain it)

    Or maybe it's that, to best see and interact with the world you're from, you need another to push up against?

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