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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    Some experts say that serial killers are so pathetically alike that it's almost boring; there's a pathological pattern, they cannot form intimacy with real living people, so the killing experience is like...intimacy for them. A really sociopathic narcissistic self-absorbed psychotic intimacy, because they feel a sense of power over and therefore "connection" with their victims, and that's why there are often lingering sexual implications with things like corpses being raped, or keeping body parts, or making women's clothing out of the skin, and so forth.

    Of course there are variations, but they're really tortured lonely people, who apparently feel less alone by murdering people. That's all the sense I can make out of it.

    I think the question should be more like "what kind of killer would you be."
    Eh, I think it's hard to argue Ted Bundy, David Berkowitz and Ed Gein all had the same basic motive.

    Many criminologists think there are a few different "styles" of killer. Here's a few I found pretty quickly when trying to refresh my memory on this:

    Visionary- Generally someone with major breaks from reality that make them either feel they aren't responsible or have a duty from some other power to kill. David Berkowitz, who thought the devil was commanding him to kill, was this type. Norman Bates is a pop culture example that probably fits here.

    Mission-oriented- Someone who wants to better the world by getting rid of certain institutions or people. That Dorner guy who was in the news recently might qualify, or maybe the Unabomber. Manson family is kinda a blend of this and the first type. The killer from Seven might be a pop-culture take.

    Hedonistic- this has three subcategories but is probably most common:
    1. Lust- A lot of rapist/killers are this, but some probably fit into another category or mix with another category. Probably they are otherwise sexually unfulfilled and simply can't control their desires.
    2. Thrill- Pretty self-explanatory. Killing is fun like skydiving or the way a hunter likes hunting. Someone like Charles Starkweather obvious applies, but more "traditional" serial killers have listed this a major motive.
    3. Comfort- Basically killing for money or some other kind of tangible profit. Hitmen or black widows or things like that.

    Power/Control- This is where most other rapist killers come in, but the sex would more be a way of showing control than about getting off. It'd be a safe bet that torturers who don't necessarily sexually abuse their victims might fit here. A lot of folks think Ted Bundy, who was considered pretty attractive and had a string of girlfriends and probably a decent sex life outside of his killings, fits here.

    Media- People who kill and then, say, send in letters to attract widespread media attention. Jack the Ripper or the Zodiac or BTK probably fit here (though maybe with elements of some others, like thrill killers).

    I mentioned Ed Gein, but I'm not sure he fits any of these. He seems closest to the first, but I'd say his mental and emotional development was so stunted he basically just didn't fully understand the implications of his actions. More like a general type of severe disorder or disability.

    I'd call those motivations pretty diverse. Many of them are basically the same motivations normal people have for other things in life. I dunno if it's insane to guess, if your normal restrictions of morality were unshackled or your mental state was a bit more unstable, which is most likely to be the one that rages most out of control.
    Does he want a pillow for his head?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craic View Post
    I took this thread to mean..If your type (as in your gf/bf) were a serial killer (and, ostensibly were going to attempt to kill you) what kind of serial killer would you be (to fight them away).
    No. This is about if you were a serial killer, how would your methods relate to your type and why?

    I was waiting for the day you and I would meet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrinth View Post
    I'm attracted to these threads, but I'm always hesitant to post my thoughts in them. I... might come back later. I want to post, but I think some thought might be a good idea here.
    I just realized I don't know what I'm talking about. I've never given any thought to anything like this, and any implication I make which would suggest otherwise is just part of an elaborate facade to make up for insecurity.

    Sorry, @Juice

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    Well, type 8 is the Sadistic Personality, which is associated with Lust, Vengeance and the pathology of Sociopathy/Antisocial personality, which translates to having no empathy, guilt or shame. This might be a little too easy...

    But if I were a killer, I'd want to feel the person's flesh. Ideally I'd kill with my bare hands, though a pair of kukris would give me enough power without removing me entirely from the situation. I think it's cowardice that leads a person to want to kill with a gun, and while I would do this in order to save my own life, it is not a situation I'd fantasize about. In my dirtiest fighting fantasies, my whole body is in it. I'm using two kukris and slaying an entire army limb by limb. I'm feeling their flesh close to me. If you can't feel it, and there's no challenge or adversity, then there's no real triumph. This is unsatisfying. What I'd lust and thirst for, if I were a killer, would be a world without guns; a world where my own body and adrenaline and instincts and reactions and motion counted for everything. It's always going to be about who has the better weapon, to a degree; but I'd choose a modest pair of kukris and carry it with me everywhere, if I were a warrior in a fantasy world. This way I've got a weapon that makes me powerful, but requires major martial arts skills and strength to use properly, so it's real strength that I earned with my blood, sweat, tears, and flesh, rather than some powerful weapon I just "bought" with my money. Kukris are not huge, so they would force me to be close to the kill, which is much more satisfying, and much more of an adrenaline rush, than holding some long sword in front of me, or shooting some bow and arrow from behind a tree and then running away. If I'm going so far as to kill someone, let's make it about lust and satisfying a carnal urge. Let's make it about putting my own life on the line, so I feel the rush of triumph. Let's keep it real, so that I'm aware of what I'm killing, so I can feel the warmth leave their body, so I can do this with my eyes open and face up to reality. That is the only way I could be turned on if I were a serial killer. And ideally, I'd be more of a warrior than a serial killer, at least in my own mind. I'd be fighting for some cause, like killing rapists or murderers, killing animal abusers, or killing off politicians or dictators that I felt were dangerous. Or better yet, let it be a matter that is personal to me, like avenging my sister's death, or killing the politicians in a country where the love of my life is being tortured. This way the rage and vengeance can flow through me and the adrenaline can really pump, and I'll have something worth fighting for. If that were the case, I imagine I would never lose.

    Damn, that felt good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faceless Beauty View Post
    Haha you would make this thread!

    But if I were to be one (not in this lifetime), I'd use the bloodiest method possible. But no explosives, just swords, axes, and other kinds of sharp things that you can hack limbs and chop heads off with.
    But how does it relate to 9?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeaT View Post
    But how does it relate to 9?
    Passive aggression that builds up over years? =p
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeaT View Post
    But how does it relate to 9?
    I'm not sure. Lol. It's probably just be doing things for the hell of it because I probably stopped caring about things completely and things like life don't mean anything? Idk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maybe View Post
    Passive aggression that builds up over years? =p
    No. It would work best with people I have no history or attachments to. That makes it less real.
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    Being a Four and raised in a somewhat healthy home, I wouldn't make a successful serial killer, although I have at times desired it. So here would be my style in case you want to raise red flags against me. Oh well it's all for fun.

    I would go after every man who even looked at me the wrong way, but I would have mercy. I would save my more serious aggression for some men who just pissed me off bad, and then the ruthless serious aggression for two men in particular, although at this stage feeling much better I don't really care to do it. But let's pretend I was back in the heat of being on the floor in anger. I would do what that one serial killer truck driver did and slowly choke them over and over again and laugh the whole time. Each time they choked, I would let up as soon as they pass out and then do it again and repeat the process until the end. And that is how I would do it. But I never had the #$@%@ to even truly want to do something like that. I can just remember back to when I was really hurt and having these thoughts. Plus, I couldn't handle the mess afterwards. That is disgusting. Apparently bodies make a foul mess after death. I wouldn't want anything to do with that.

    I hope I am not condoning this kind of behavior. I am just being honest about real human emotion. You are not considering this are you?

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    From what I have seen, most serial killers are the combination of 8 and 5. Some are a little 3 or 4. Ted Bundy was a 3-8-7. Richard Ramirez, I can't tell, but he seemed a bit of a 4. Jeffrey Dahmer was either 5-8 or 8-5, I think he was the creepiest. But I have also have seen some unusually unhealthy Eight's look strikingly like Fives, so maybe that pronounces some of the Five.

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