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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great One View Post
    Well, my approach to sleep is that I have learned that I absolutely must get enough sleep. Back in my childhood and up to about the year 2010 I almost never got enough sleep and really didn't give a damn about it. However, I have awful panic attacks and PTSD so I've learned that when I don't get enough sleep that often times my mental health is much worse and I can't focus on my work and wind up having much higher levels of anxiety as well. Sleep is a must for me. I must have food as well because I have hypoglycemia and when I don't eat I feel like I'm going to pass out: so food is also a must. I am constantly worried about not having shelter as well, but not necessarily for survival reasons but more for the reason that I don't want to feel like a loser for being homeless. Medical concerns are also big for me, and I am terrified when I have medical issues.
    Still mostly driven by 6 worries, not sp worries necessarily. Notice the way you word things and the focus on must. You must eat, you must sleep, otherwise deal with the moral consequences. Do you feel shame if you neglect sp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeaT View Post
    Still mostly driven by 6 worries, not sp worries necessarily. Notice the way you word things and the focus on must. You must eat, you must sleep, otherwise deal with the moral consequences. Do you feel shame if you neglect sp?
    No I don't really feel shame if I neglect SP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great One View Post
    No I don't really feel shame if I neglect SP.
    What about sx or so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeaT View Post
    What about sx or so?
    I definitely feel shame if I do not have a mate. I want a woman so badly in my life right now but it is very difficult to get one because I keep going through financial catastrophes. I also feel a strong drive to be as physically attractive as humanly possible in order to attract mates.

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    @The Great One, I like the new avatar.

    I have a few questions for you - don't think too much about how they might be related to instinct variant, because they're not meant to be directly revealing.

    How do you divide your time up during your days? What do you prioritize when making plans or otherwise doling out your time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    , I like the new avatar.

    I have a few questions for you - don't think too much about how they might be related to instinct variant, because they're not meant to be directly revealing.

    How do you divide your time up during your days? What do you prioritize when making plans or otherwise doling out your time?
    Thank you for the complement on the avatar. Now to answer your question about how I divide my time:

    The vast majority of my time is spent taking care of self-pres needs. I am a computer science student in college and am very concerned with school and maintaining a high GPA because I know that it could lead to jobs and possible internships that could bring me money in the future. In fact, I have a 3.5 GPA right now. I was working a job for about two months, and I was very concerned with my job performance because the job brought me money and I didn't want to lose it. I did however, lose the job because apparently I was too slow at the job. I should also mention that my mental health is not the greatest right now, and I am very preoccupied with getting it back up to par as well. In order to achieve this, I am seeing a hypnotist who helps me to relax and to learn to calm down my mind through meditation and breathing exercises and am also seeing a psycho-therapist. I developed a gagging problem that hinders me from doing hard exercise right now, and I am also trying to save up enough money to get that medical problem taken care of.

    I really, really would like to get a woman in my life right now as well. However, I am extremely picky in my selection of mates and have sexual chemistry with only a very select few. I generally only go for highly attractive women that are somewhere between the 8 and 10 category and those are difficult to get. I am constantly trying to improve my looks in order to get these types of women. When, I am actually in a relationship, I spend a great deal of time with the woman that I am dating: we have sex constantly, we talk a lot, and we constantly go places together. The woman almost becomes an obsession to me. I can literally feel so connected to a woman that after only 3 dates, I can be seriously in love with her and be ready to marry her. However, I don't do this because logic kicks in and I realize that this has could potentially hurt me if I don't choose the right woman. Many times I have to reach out to peers to talk some sense into me when this happens, because I fall in love so deeply and so easily that it creates a problem. Plus, I'm not really ready to get married right now and enjoy playing the field when I am able.

    I really do almost nothing to contribute to SO. I'm not gonna lie though, I often socially feel like a loser being so broke like I am now and have so little. However, having horrible PTSD makes it very difficult to find and keep a job. I rarely if ever do any type of group activities, and when I do it's with a small circle of friends. I should also mention, that I do enjoy large groups of people and parties but I generally don't socialize with many people there. I generally just attend them to find a mate. I also attend them to make find one or two more friends that I can hang out with. Generally I find that in parties, I feel I'm a woman going to a department store and picking out clothes: I pick out a few people and pull them to the side and focus on talking with them the majority of the night. It's either that, or I'm the life of the party and am the center of attention entertaining everyone.

    That's me in a nutshell.

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    ^ Maybe it's because I'm an SJ, but all of your "sp needs" stuff in the above post seems like what I would do in your situation, even with me being sp-last.

    And the way you describe your social situation and how you approach it reminds me a lot of various descriptions I've seen of sx/so, that emphasize using so as a tool to obtain sx objectives. e.g. this one from enneagram.blogspot.com: "If I can maintain position and inclusion in the group/world, I can keep up and escalate all this merging/intensity."

    There's a subdued quality to sp-doms -- especially sp/so -- that I do not see in you at all.

    p.s. The self-pres section in the OP should have a big neon sign over it that says "enneagram 6".
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    ^ Maybe it's because I'm an SJ, but all of your "sp needs" stuff in the above post seems like what I would do in your situation, even with me being sp-last.

    And the way you describe your social situation and how you approach it reminds me a lot of various descriptions I've seen of sx/so, that emphasize using so as a tool to obtain sx objectives. e.g. this one from enneagram.blogspot.com: "If I can maintain position and inclusion in the group/world, I can keep up and escalate all this merging/intensity."

    There's a subdued quality to sp-doms -- especially sp/so -- that I do not see in you at all.

    p.s. The self-pres section in the OP should have a big neon sign over it that says "enneagram 6".
    Yeah, I definitely seemed to neglect sp needs in the past. I literally had no concept of self preservation, or health, or anything. However, I have been poor for a long time now, and I now see how important that money is. I am now very money motivated and I care a lot more about my health since I have now realized just how much decent health care costs. I also don't have the intensity of an sx first. Plus, sx 6's are pretty damn counter-phobic where I am very phobic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great One View Post
    Yeah, I definitely seemed to neglect sp needs in the past. I literally had no concept of self preservation, or health, or anything. However, I have been poor for a long time now, and I now see how important that money is. I am now very money motivated and I care a lot more about my health since I have now realized just how much decent health care costs.
    I'd call that life experience, and not anything type-related. It's telling that you had to learn how to NOT neglect it -- just like how I had to learn to tone down my so-first 1w2 tendencies as I got older.
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    I also don't have the intensity of an sx first. Plus, sx 6's are pretty damn counter-phobic where I am very phobic.
    I don't know if the bolded is universal. It'd be nice to hear some outside input, though. @skylights?

    You seem pretty intense to me. Much more intense than I am, which is part of why I'm hesitant to call you so/sx. Pretty sure about sp last, though.
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    @EJCC

    I'd call that life experience, and not anything type-related. It's telling that you had to learn how to NOT neglect it -- just like how I had to learn to tone down my so-first 1w2 tendencies as I got older.
    I wonder about that though. It could also be argued that the reason that I was not concerned with self-pres needs was because they were met all-throughout my childhood: My parents made good money and I had all of my health needs covered (health insurance, dental, etc), and they also provided me with plenty of food, and adequate shelter. However, now that this has been all taken away from me and I am on my own, I am now not getting these needs met and am more aware of my strong need for them.

    I don't know if the bolded is universal. It'd be nice to hear some outside input, though. @skylights?

    You seem pretty intense to me. Much more intense than I am, which is part of why I'm hesitant to call you so/sx. Pretty sure about sp last, though.
    I'm not gonna lie, when I was a member of typewatch, I learned to type enneagram variants by vibe. To be honest, when I saw your videos you didn't appear to be sp last. In fact, the last enneagram variants that I could see you as are so/sx. Personally, I think that you are either a sp/so, so/sp, or sp/sx, but I saw self-pres in there somewhere. Again, I could be wrong, I'm just going by what I saw. However, that could be why you don't relate to my intensity level.

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