6w7. While the 3 is image-conscious for self-promotional reasons, the 6 anxiously scans the environment and is concerned with how they appear in the eyes of others for personal reasons.
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03-22-2013, 02:00 PM #31"But you forget that there is one value that is greater than all others: human freedom. Because no matter how perfectly you set the world up for humanity, they will always rebel simply to exert their own selves. You cannot win."
03-22-2013, 02:48 PM #32
ENFP: We put the Fi in Fire
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Motivation: Dark Worker
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03-22-2013, 03:19 PM #33
I'll be annoying and start digging here so we'll truly see what you think about things:
Note that all the characters that appear in the video are a representation Vergil's psyche. When the character called Kat for example starts berating him, is this something you relate to in a similar manner? Are you prone to berate yourself?
Type Two is generous, demonstrative, people-pleasing, and possessive.
I'm sort of all these, but not highly any of them. I want to help people, but I don't want to go out of my way for it. I can't stand it when people are mad at me, but I'm equally assertive and argumentative, so I stand by what I think anyway.
Type Three is adaptable, excelling, driven, and image-conscious.
Very much the last, but not in a conformist sort of way. I would love to be excelling and driven, and I guess I do ok, but I never think I'm successful enough and I used to be a slacker because of performance anxiety or something. I have high ambitions, which I may not have the courage to pursue for a long time. Because of being image conscious, I think. I'm worried about what people think, and so just hide from attention even though I really want it. I'm not shy about my intellectual abilities. But at the same time I don't want to come across as conceited...
Type Four is expressive, dramatic, self-absorbed, and temperamental.
I can be all of these at times, but not particularly so except probably being self absorbed (even though I don't mean to be). Temperamental only because I can get annoyed easily; people don't always know it though because I'm quiet. But if I have something I want to express I do it. I don't like drama, but I've been known to get wrapped up in it without knowing that's what I was doing, usually based on false assumptions and paranoia. And then afterward I was ashamed.
Type Five is perceptive, innovative, secretive, and isolated.
I'm not secretive at all, and I don't like isolation at all, even though I've tended to be. I have the 5 drive to seek knowledge and understand how thing work though. I'm endlessly curious. If I could live forever I'd end up with a million college degrees.
Type Six is engaging, responsible, anxious, and suspicious.
Yep. I'm just not overly loyal, and I don't particularly like established structures and authority and such. I respect what's legitimate, and conform enough to successfully navigate the system.
Type Seven is spontaneous, versatile, acquisitive, and scattered.
All of these, but less spontaneous, and I'm not really materialistic. I like being prepared and having an idea of what's going to happen. If I can't prepare for something I get nervous. Also because I'm not good at efficiently fitting everything I have to do into my schedule, and so I'll be anxious about there being something I should be doing instead.
Type Eight is self-confident, decisive, willful, and confrontational.
Sometimes the last two, sometimes self confident, but not decisive. And I don't like feeling like a dominating or imposing kind of person.
Type Nine is receptive, reassuring, complacent, and resigned.
Not so much the second two because I'm very optimistic and always coming up with possibilities for positive change in situations.
That last part is definitely true. See, I was social and outgoing up to age 7 when we moved, and suddenly people thought I was weird; so that's when I created an artificial imaginary social life and lived there for about a decade. I've been trying to become social again ever since I was a teenager, but it's hard because it's such a habit and I don't always know how to act, and I've developed some social anxiety. People and crowds do energize me, it's just that they energize me too much, and I get hyperactive and anxious. So I call myself a closet extrovert because I think I'd be happier if I was, and I've sort of been forced to live the life of an introvert because I didn't know how not to. Anyway, explaining the x. I think it's probably somewhat common. I'm pretty happy as an ambivert, and being INTP has made me good at philosophy.
03-22-2013, 11:45 PM #34
03-23-2013, 07:52 AM #35
Self controlled: I just don't like to feel out of control (and I never really do), because that to me means not being grown up and capable, not conscious and aware of things, and slipping into insanity (which scares me).
I don't take it to an unhealthy extreme.
I watched about half the video and then got too bored. It's a bit dramatic for my taste. So I guess I don't really relate. I don't berate myself, I don't think. Not consciously anyway.
I don't know if I'm thinking of it the right way, but literally I like for other people to be pleased and I have a strong need to be accommodating, because I don't want them to be mad and stop liking me.
I don't think I go out of my way for it, or sacrifice myself, but if I'm faced with a situation in which it's that or maybe have a conflict I'd rather just avoid conflict if it doesn't inconvenience me too much.
Helping people: I care about people and I want them to be happy, because I empathize. It's more producing positivity than alleviating negativity; making people happy makes me happy. And I just have an instinct to be helpful, like if I can do something and it helps produce a good outcome I'd rather do that than stand around and do nothing. Also I have a good sense of the global community and I feel we are all interconnected.
Reacting to people being angry: I try to negotiate.
I get triggered if people start accusing me of stuff and judging me, and then I get defensive and argumentative.
But underneath I know conflict scares me (1) because I have this unconscious belief that people will overreact and be violent or stop liking me forever, (2) and then I'll be shunned and ostracized and all that stuff. (3) Paranoia basically. Inferior Fe type stuff.
1. Suggests withdrawn type.
2. This is 9 logic in a nutshell, especially the part in bold.
3. This sounds really like soc first.
Lastly, none of what you described here is really indicative of inferior Fe.
I wouldn't describe myself as lazy, I just have poor time management skills.
That and some kind of fear of failure and fear of success at the same time plus perfectionism makes me avoid things sometimes.
What I wrote about being a closet extrovert and living in a fantasy world for a long time explains it I think. Not having much of a social life and really wanting one, I created one for myself, and in it I had a lot of attention.
So getting out of it I'm just not always aware of other people, although I want to be. I'm not quiet when I'm mad; what I meant is I'm quiet all the time, so when I'm mad sometimes it's hard to tell unless I'm in stubborn argumentative telling someone off mode.
Also I get slightly annoyed and frustrated about little things and then immediately forget about them, so there's no point in saying anything unless I'm making it into a funny story.
Oh I didn't mean getting degrees as a sign of avarice, only that I have an insatiable thirst for knowledge and analysis, penetrating into the mysterious workings of the universe. I do think I experience anxiety when I don't understand things though. Especially if someone thinks they do and isn't explaining it to me. That really annoys me.
Perhaps so. What do you mean by psychospiritual laziness?
Why do I not want to be dominating and imposing? I guess because I'm easily intimidated and I don't want to intimidate others? Because I don't want to make them feel bad and oppress them?
Hm...like if I was in a job where I wasn't happy I'd come up with ways to improve the situation,
make myself happier, get better at it,
and think of what jobs I'd rather have, how to get them, what I'd ideally like to do, etc. I don't resign myself to much of anything. And I'm not complacent because I'm an idea person.
I don't expect you to agree with me, because I know I don't come across as NTP, but Ti-Fe is something I'm decided on, so that's not on the agenda. And actually it does mean I'd be better at philosophy; it's one of the suggested and popular careers for INTP, and it utilizes the type's natural talents. What I meant though is that being introverted has produced the necessary introspection to really get into ideas and focus on them, and follow through, instead of always getting distracted with socializing and stuff. I'm still very ADHD, so I can only expect I'd be more so if I was a true extrovert.
03-23-2013, 10:38 AM #36
Great analysis, @LeaT. I probably am a 9 then. I'll research it some more and see if it fits. So 9w1, 6w7, 3w4 is my working hypothesis at the moment.
03-23-2013, 11:32 AM #37"But you forget that there is one value that is greater than all others: human freedom. Because no matter how perfectly you set the world up for humanity, they will always rebel simply to exert their own selves. You cannot win."
03-24-2013, 05:40 PM #38
04-16-2013, 03:53 AM #39
I've decided I'm 9w1. The description I read fit, and it said 9's have characteristics of every type, and often get mistyped as 4's or 5's because they retreat into their heads and daydream. I could change my mind later, but I think it fits.
See, I don't resist being typed by other people if I think what people are saying is right.
04-19-2014, 11:27 PM #40
Does anyone think I could be a 1w9?
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