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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    That he dislikes sixes? I only recall his name from a few articles I have read.
    To be fair I dont like 6's either.


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    Does anyone particularly like sixes?
    Yah.
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    The comment about Riso and Sixes doesn't ring true for me. I used to know Don quite well and was a member of one of his early training programs. I clearly remember ~ as it was quite a surprise to me at the time ~ how he often described Sixes as being "attractive" and "loveable" people. I am also fairly certain that his partner was a Six.

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    My only memory of Don, besides reading his books, was receiving a letter from him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enneagrammar View Post
    The comment about Riso and Sixes doesn't ring true for me. I used to know Don quite well and was a member of one of his early training programs. I clearly remember ~ as it was quite a surprise to me at the time ~ how he often described Sixes as being "attractive" and "loveable" people. I am also fairly certain that his partner was a Six.
    That's good to know. I remember when my friend told me this, I had already read through the six description in the book (because I had just tested as one) and was thinking, "that wasn't so bad... but OK." That was a first edition of the book, and the one I have now is much newer and has Russ Hudson's work in it too. I guessed that Russ had brought some balance in, but never had the texts to compare.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    My only memory of Don, besides reading his books, was receiving a letter from him.
    Was it a good one? Perhaps the letter H?

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    There is definitely dislike directed towards him with regards to the 6 description.

    Objectively, a lot of people have found that his description was "wanting" in comparison to those of others. This may be true ... but ultimately it does boil down to personal interpretation and reactions, doesn't it - and ironically kinda dependent on one's type too in some ways.

    In any case ... Cristicism aside, by making Enneagrams kinda pop-culturish - by making his website and a lot of his work free, he actually did the overall Enneagram community a huge service.

    I wonder how many people would've made their way to Naranjo and Maitri if the EI site didn't have such comprehensive descriptions freely available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen View Post
    That's good to know. I remember when my friend told me this, I had already read through the six description in the book (because I had just tested as one) and was thinking, "that wasn't so bad... but OK." That was a first edition of the book, and the one I have now is much newer and has Russ Hudson's work in it too. I guessed that Russ had brought some balance in, but never had the texts to compare.



    Was it a good one? Perhaps the letter H?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    There is 1 chance in 26 that you are correct.
    Not really. I hear that he was biased not only against letters that look somewhat like sixes when written a certain way... but also against letters whose numeric analog contains a six or is a multiple of six. This narrows it down to only a few letters, the most popular of which is easily the letter H, for obvious reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    There is definitely dislike directed towards him with regards to the 6 description.

    Objectively, a lot of people have found that his description was "wanting" in comparison to those of others. This may be true ... but ultimately it does boil down to personal interpretation and reactions, doesn't it - and ironically kinda dependent on one's type too in some ways.

    In any case ... Cristicism aside, by making Enneagrams kinda pop-culturish - by making his website and a lot of his work free, he actually did the overall Enneagram community a huge service.

    I wonder how many people would've made their way to Naranjo and Maitri if the EI site didn't have such comprehensive descriptions freely available.
    Well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuchIrony View Post
    Too bad he dislikes sixes. As a proponent of the enneagram, shouldn't he know better not to show bias towards certain types?
    Eh, I generally dislike 4s. Remind me to write some crap about them to balance things out.

    Seriously though, it's unfortunate to hear that he has passed away. I have learned a lot from his writings. Good for him for leaving such a legacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AffirmitiveAnxiety View Post
    To be fair I dont like 6's either.
    you're a six who doesn't like sixes? XD


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