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    Default and what about NO wing?

    My husband. I can't for the life of me figure out his wing. I don't believe he has one? He is a type 9 Peacemaker through and through, and neither 8 nor 1 make ANY sense.
    The Enneagram is not a main tool of mine, so I don't have enough books or research to address this issue.

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    It's possible, but not very likely that he'd have no traits of either type. He could be mistyped.
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    My father is like that too. A type 9 and difficult to pin down his wing. I'd say he's slightly closer to 8 wing but he doesn't have much of either 8 or 1. I think some people just have weaker wings.

    I don't think he's mistyped. He just doesn't fit any of the other types. I kinda see some 5w6 but I think that's his head fix. 9 clearly fits him the best.

    I've known others who have strongly identified with their enneagram type but have not identified with either of the wings.
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    I don't think my husband is mistyped either. He scored like an 18 in 9, and under 13 in all the others. It also fits him so well from the spiritual perspective and the holy sufferings or whatever those Fourth Way people called them.

    Nobody really talks about the Enneagram that way on this board. It's actually a pretty interesting system based on the presup that when we are born, we are ripped from heaven and thrown onto Earth with parents that give us love that is a sorry excuse for the love we received before human birth. It's totally dramatic and totally awesome. So everyone's type therefore, is developed in infancy as a way to cope with the inherent suffering and impure love we receive as babies. Poor little Peacemakers feel unappreciated and their inner selves/lives ignored by their parents.
    This fits my husband tooo perfectly.
    I think the original writers would have thought all "wings" are BS, but I'm not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pansophie View Post
    I don't think my husband is mistyped either. He scored like an 18 in 9, and under 13 in all the others. It also fits him so well from the spiritual perspective and the holy sufferings or whatever those Fourth Way people called them.

    Nobody really talks about the Enneagram that way on this board. It's actually a pretty interesting system based on the presup that when we are born, we are ripped from heaven and thrown onto Earth with parents that give us love that is a sorry excuse for the love we received before human birth. It's totally dramatic and totally awesome. So everyone's type therefore, is developed in infancy as a way to cope with the inherent suffering and impure love we receive as babies. Poor little Peacemakers feel unappreciated and their inner selves/lives ignored by their parents.
    This fits my husband tooo perfectly.
    I think the original writers would have thought all "wings" are BS, but I'm not sure.
    The original writers - how far back are we going? - thought there were two wings. That's why they are called wings.

    The Enneagram is discussed frequently on this forum, unless you mean the theory itself or the Fourth Way. I've tried to discuss the latter but few seem to know what it is. They want to talk about the latest theories, not the older stuff.

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    I find that wings are harder ti figure out with 9s in particular. Also, the tests are flawed. They're meant to point you on the right track to figuring out your type, not tell you what it is and set it in stone. I tested just for fun a few times, and the most recent one came up as 6 :P also, I have a friend that I typed as 4w3, she took the test and came up as 8w7, which I really highly doubt. I thought about it though, and decided she's probably 7 (haven't figured out the wing yet).
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    My husband tested as a 1 with "balanced" wings. After reading up on them, I think he leans slightly more towards 1w9 though. So maybe your husband just has balanced wings?


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    Quote Originally Posted by acronach View Post
    I find that wings are harder ti figure out with 9s in particular. Also, the tests are flawed. They're meant to point you on the right track to figuring out your type, not tell you what it is and set it in stone. I tested just for fun a few times, and the most recent one came up as 6 :P also, I have a friend that I typed as 4w3, she took the test and came up as 8w7, which I really highly doubt. I thought about it though, and decided she's probably 7 (haven't figured out the wing yet).
    4w3 "resonates" with 8. They are look-alikes.
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    Personally, I don't think the wings have much merit other than coincidence. Why is a type 9 required to have the traits of either a 1 or an 8? If you check out my own Enneagram thread, I landed on 953 as my tritype, which not only syncs up with all the tests I took (RHETI and the Fauvres' included), and explains my motivations/behaviors much better than 9w1 or 9w8 or 5w6. Interestingly, the RHETI test points out that I score strongly in 8 and 9 and 1, making it remarkably difficult to pin down a wing as type 9. And though I identify with aspects of 8 and 1, I really don't find any synergy with the 9w1 or 9w8.

    Overall, I find that the Enneagram overdescribes each type, including many frequent-but-not-always-present traits and suggesting that they're fundamental traits when they really aren't.
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    Still not convinced the wings are worth anyone's time, tbh. You can't explain everything about a person using the enneagram, so stick to what it does well - clearly and concisely.

    What the enneagram types are trying to point at are fundamental world views - they're spectacularly simple & utterly encompassing, on a level that can be tough to appreciate at first - which is where I think the wings and the tritypes etc. come from. They just don't add anything beyond another layer of needless complexity that gets away from the actual workings of things.

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