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Type exemplars who break stereotypes

Elfboy

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ENFP
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sx/sp
I am looking for
- 1s who don't have a stick up their ass
- 2s who aren't clinging, obligatory bastards
- 3s who aren't smug political types
- 4s who aren't whining emo bleeding hearts
- 5s who are engaged and practical in the real world
- 6s who are strong and confident
- 7s who are focused and disciplined
- 8s who are protagonists or charitable and caring
- 9s who are ambitious, strong willed and not push overs
 

Eugene Watson VIII

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?
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sp/sx
damn...Adam Sandler is meant to be a 9. Why would a 9 bother with movies, paparazzi etc, unless that proves he isn't
 

Phoenix

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XNTX
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1w2
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sx/sp
Yeah ... but wouldn't people look at these people

- 9s who are ambitious, strong willed and not push overs

and type them as 3's instead? ;)
 

Elfboy

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my own list
1w9: Dame Joan Sutherland
1w2: Natalie Portman
2w1: Renee Fleming
2w3: [MENTION=16006]Etherea[/MENTION]
3w2: Kenny G
3w4: Viggo Mortensen
4w3: *
4w5: *
5w4: *
5w6: *
6w5: Chuck Norris
6w7: Amy Lee
7w6: Steven Covey
7w8: Hugh Hefner
8w7: Michael Douglas
8w9: Leontyne Price
9w8: Beyonce
9w1: *

*I really don't know of many 2w3s, 4s, 5s and 9w1s, so feel free to fill me in on some
Edit: found a non clingy 2w3 :D
 

Eugene Watson VIII

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Bill gates as a productive 5

(waiting for thread to explode)
 

acronach

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MBTI Type
INTP
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5
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sx/sp
5w4 John Lennon

also, me in some cases.
 

Randomnity

insert random title here
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ISTP
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6w5
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sp/sx
- 6s who are strong and confident

I think a lot of us can appear that way on the outside and not feel that way on the inside. I can think of several on the forum (with respect to the outside - I don't know what their inner thoughts are like).

But I also think that applies to all human beings. How can you tell how strong and confident someone is on the inside?
 

Amargith

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sx/so
4w5 Johnny Depp.
 

StephMC

Controlled Mischief
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ISTP
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9w8
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sp/sx
I am looking for
...
- 9s who are ambitious, strong willed and not push overs

I wouldn't consider myself super ambitious. Maybe more than average. But I can certainly be strong willed, and I'm no push over. I'm a 9w8.
 

disregard

mrs
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Isn't the whole point of typology to stereotype? And if you break the stereotype, you are not that type? MB & Enneagram are entertaining in theory.. but flawed because you cannot prove a type. First of all, type theories are man-made. Secondly, the attribution of type to oneself or to someone other than ourselves is completely subjective. How we see ourselves and how others see us are not really telling as to who we are. We hide things about ourselves from ourselves, and we hide things about ourselves from others. We pretend to be what we are not; we strive to be what we are not. Typology is no more than entertainment.
 

highlander

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Isn't the whole point of typology to stereotype? And if you break the stereotype, you are not that type? MB & Enneagram are entertaining in theory.. but flawed because you cannot prove a type. First of all, type theories are man-made. Secondly, the attribution of type to oneself or to someone other than ourselves is completely subjective. How we see ourselves and how others see us are not really telling as to who we are. We hide things about ourselves from ourselves, and we hide things about ourselves from others. We pretend to be what we are not; we strive to be what we are not. Typology is no more than entertainment.

I think we're talking about enneagram types that are at their best - that is on the high side of health levels.

I also think Typology is a bit more worthwhile than entertainment. It is useful from a growth and development perspective - especially enneagram.
 

PeaceBaby

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I think we're talking about enneagram types that are at their best - that is on the high side of health levels.

In fact, to me that's part of the usefulness of enneagram right there - there is a spectrum of growth points. Not so much with typology.
 

PeaceBaby

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- 9s who are ambitious, strong willed and not push overs

Tritype is what helps me understand my ambitious drives. I've always had a strong entrepreneurial streak - this is the third business I've started and run now, and having 3 in my tritype certainly helps explain that. So, I would say I am ambitious for sure, strong-willed but in the context of considering other's POV, and a push-over sometimes.
 
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Ginkgo

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Jim Carrey has some slight discipline... if you call an approach to life based on enneagram discipline. (yes, he's aware of enneagram and aspires to ascend to the status of a divine orb of light) ...
 

Mia.

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I think we're talking about enneagram types that are at their best - that is on the high side of health levels.

I also think Typology is a bit more worthwhile than entertainment. It is useful from a growth and development perspective - especially enneagram.

This. Yes.

Also with MBTI, the cognitive functions are just processes - their results will vary wildly, even though they may often produce similar results in a majority of individuals. Depending on what information they are oriented to and therefore synthesizing and processing, one can end up with a Jungian/MBTI type that wound up with a very different result than the majority of his/her fellow types may have be likely to do, and might therefore defy folk typology.

Also, the overlaying frameworks will make a specific type more or less rare in manifestation and appearance. If one takes an MBTI type - let's say an IN type, which is the rarest, then adds a less common enneatype/tritype for that type, then adds an sx primary stacking (which rumor has it is more rare than the others), you're probably going to have what looks like an odd duck on your hands. Especially if he/she has achieved higher levels of integration, as [MENTION=8936]highlander[/MENTION] mentioned.
 
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