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    Just the hook, honestly, but the intermittent lyris are hilarious.

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    Sad types:

    Type 1
    - Thousand Foot Krutch, "Falls Apart"
    (it's technically about God, but you could substitute out God for secular morality/principles and it'd work just the same)

    Type 2? (or maybe Type 1?)
    - Soundgarden, "Fell On Black Days"

    Type 5
    - Pretty much every song Tool or A Perfect Circle has ever written
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    Lol. Why so many Metal songs for fives? Are we kinda aggressive or is it just because so many INTx listen to it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infperson View Post
    Lol. Why so many Metal songs for fives? Are we kinda aggressive or is it just because so many INTx listen to it?
    Because a huge percentage of metal songs are so obviously 5 that they're low-hanging fruit!

    If you want non-metal songs, check out some early stuff by Joe Jackson or Elvis Costello. That's a pair of new wave type 5 cynics, right there.
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    Okay, I'll be the pretentious elitist and post some classical pieces. I've tried to match the mood of each with what I perceive the types to be. Might post some for the rest of the types later if I can think of any.

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    Could see this one being either 5, 4, or 9...



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    Double post.

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    @EJCC Inclined to say 5-ish but I could be biased. But in general I find that the tone of the song is not emotionally volatile enough to be 4 and it's not positive enough for a 9. It does however sound rather detached and the lyrics hint at this as well:

    There's a place in a piney hollow
    That no one but me can find
    Some Choctaw built it in the hillside
    Stone by stone in a simpler time
    It's a holy place, my daddy showed me
    Back before this land of mine
    On the blue side of the mountain
    Where the sun don't ever shine
    So deep and dark like a hurtin' down in my heart
    Maybe somethin' there will show me some kind of sign

    On the blue side of the mountain
    Where the sun don't ever shine
    I'm going back to a world of shadow
    Gotta find some peace, for I lose my mind
    On the blue side of the mountain
    Where the sun don't ever shine
    So deep and dark like a hurtin' down in my heart
    Maybe somethin' there will show me some kind of sign
    On the blue side of the mountain
    Where the sun don't ever shine
    Where the sun don't ever shine

    There's a need to withdraw to search for answers, and it's also implied that the withdrawal occurred due to emotional vulnerability but it's mentioned in such an aside way so very detached. Also, the landscape depicted in the lyrics don't seem to add up to how I tend to view 9 lyrics that are more idyllic and idealistic. I think a great example of a famous 9 artist is Enya. I can't think of any famous 4 artist right now aside Marilyn Manson, but it's just interesting for contrast anyway:

    Look at me now
    I've got no religion
    Look at me now
    I'm so vacant
    Look at me now
    I was a virgin
    Look at me now
    Grew up to be a whore
    And I want it
    I believe it

    I'm a million different things
    And not a one you know

    Hey, and our mommies are lost now
    Hey, daddy's someone else
    Hey, and we love the abuse
    Because it makes us feel like we are needed now

    But I know
    I wanna disappear
    I wanna die young

    And Sell my soul
    Use up all your drugs
    And make me come
    Yesterday man,
    I was a nihilist and
    Now today I'm
    Just too fucking bored
    And I want it
    I believe it
    By the time I'm old enough
    I won't know anything at all
    Hey, and our mommies are lost now
    Hey, daddy's someone else
    Hey, and we love the abuse
    Because it makes us feel like we are needed now
    But I know
    I wanna disappear

    Notice the overall tendency towards self-pity. Life's just too cruel to me, life's too difficult for me.

    Let me sail, let me sail,
    Let the Orinoco Flow,
    Let me reach, let me beach
    On the shores of Tripoli.
    Let me sail, let me sail,
    Let me crash upon your shore,
    Let me reach, let me beach
    Far beyond the Yellow Sea.

    Sail away, sail away, sail away. [Repeat: x4]

    From Bissau to Palau, in the shade of Avalon,
    From Fiji to Tiree and the Isles of Ebony,
    From Peru to Cebu hear the power of Babylon,
    From Bali to Cali, far beneath the Coral Sea.

    Turn it up, turn it up, turn it up, up, adieu. Oh. [Repeat: x3]

    Sail away, sail away, sail away. [Repeat: x4]

    From the North to the South, Ebudæ into Khartoum,
    From the deep sea of Clouds to the island of the moon,
    Carry me on the waves to the lands I've never been,
    Carry me on the waves to the lands I've never seen.
    We can sail, we can sail with the Orinoco Flow,
    We can sail, we can sail.
    (Sail away, sail away, sail away)

    We can steer, we can near
    With Rob Dickins at the wheel,
    We can sigh, say goodbye Ross and his dependencies
    We can sail, we can sail
    (Sail away, sail away, sail away)

    We can reach, we can beach,
    On the shores of Tripoli,
    We can sail, we can sail
    (Sail away, sail away, sail away)
    From Bali to Cali, far beneath the Coral Sea,
    We can sail, we can sail
    (Sail away, sail away, sail away)
    From Bissau to Palau, in the shade of Avalon,
    We can sail, we can sail
    (Sail away, sail away, sail away)
    We can reach, we can beach,
    Far beyond the Yellow Sea,
    We can sail, we can sail
    (Sail away, sail away, sail away)
    From Peru to Cebu hear the power of Babylon,
    We can sail, we can sail.
    (Sail away, sail away, sail away)
    We can sail, we can sail.

    She's not even writing a song about actual reality but she's depicting this fantasy landscape. The song you linked is clearly an attempt to describe a certain state of mind, it's still anchored in reality in some way, and Marilyn Manson is well, Marilyn Manson. He wrote that song because that is how he felt about drug abuse. Enya though? It's about this romantic and fantastic adventure where everything is happy and fluffy, to exaggerate a bit. There's also the tendency towards fulfilling one's self-potential, we can sail which to me at least suggests 9 > 3. But yes, Enya is like magic still exists. I think for example that the early Harry Potter books had a similar vibe (J. K. Rowling is often typed as a 9) where we just enter this fantastic fantasy world where great adventures occur.

    Maybe someone else has any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infperson View Post
    Lol. Why so many Metal songs for fives? Are we kinda aggressive or is it just because so many INTx listen to it?
    Good question. I love metal though so I'm clearly biased here, and I've come to the realization that a lot of the music I listen to tend to fall on the 5-8 axis with a 4 flair tossed in, maybe some sx frustration too. With that said, I think it makes sense for many 5s to seek out the counter-culture of heavy metal because there's a general tendency to think that heavy metal is more complex as a music form than say, pop music. It has a snobbish intellectual superior vibe that I think a 5 would potentially appreciate (I am not going to lie when I say I did when I was younger too, until I grew out of my emo counter-culture attitude). There's also this entire subbranch which tries to explore the connection between metal and science in some way, by having lyrics very focused on science and scientific phenomena. I already mentioned Scar Symmetry and Dark Tranquillity here as two examples.

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