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    Quote Originally Posted by mmhmm View Post
    well i think you may have missed the point of a
    3 if you don't mention vanity. 3s are all about living
    for the eyes of others.

    "more more more .. whatever" doesn't translate to vanity.
    if anything it would translate more to greed/lust/gluttony.



    3's motivation is to serve is its self-image. a 3 would
    identify with an idealized image and sells it which leads
    to the /behaviour/ of trying to pursue achievements and
    goals. (ie. making threads about badassery, glorifying te-bitchslaps
    or whatever idealized image the 3 is trying to sell)

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    edit: i don't think i could be a 1. or a 9.
    3s are human doing. self esteem to them is a tread mill. as long as they keep running, accomplishing, etc, life is good, once they slip up or burn out and fall off the treadmill, so too does their self worth. this can create a sort of tunnel vision, with the 3 only seeing his goals and objectives and missing the big picture of the rest of life. 1s by contrast have a wider view of reality, unconsciously scanning their environment for imperfections

    Edit: another thing. the image of a 3 is not always judged by the standards/acceptance of others (you have them confused with type 2 in this regard). the 3's standards are external, but they can be driven by many other things than other people's expectations and gratification. many 3s just like the game of hustling and want to meet higher and higher goals, like a kid playing a video game who is constantly trying to get the highest score.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    3s are human doing. self esteem to them is a tread mill. as long as they keep running, accomplishing, etc, life is good, once they slip up or burn out and fall off the treadmill, so too does their self worth. this can create a sort of tunnel vision, with the 3 only seeing his goals and objectives and missing the big picture of the rest of life. 1s by contrast have a wider view of reality, unconsciously scanning their environment for imperfections
    to respond to your focus on behavior and oversimplification:
    3's self worth is determined by how others perceive them.
    why are they accomplishing? to meet some sort of standard.
    who sets the standards? others.

    accomplishing for eyes of others. vanity.
    every normal man must be tempted, at times,
    to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag,
    and begin slitting throats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmhmm View Post
    to respond to your focus on behavior and oversimplification:
    3's self worth is determined by how others perceive them.
    why are they accomplishing? to meet some sort of standard.
    who sets the standards? others.

    accomplishing for eyes of others. vanity.
    that's the thing though, it isn't always for others. others play a part in the goals that the 3 goes after, but 3s are generally more concerned with beating other people than winning their acceptance. the feeling of "yes! I won bitches!" is the most important part, admiration from others just further supports the fact that they did in fact win at something worthwhile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    that's the thing though, it isn't always for others. others play a part in the goals that the 3 goes after, but 3s are generally more concerned with beating other people than winning their acceptance. the feeling of "yes! I won bitches!" is the most important part, admiration from others just further supports the fact that they did in fact win at something worthwhile.
    elfboy. this in a nutshell encapsulates your understanding (or lack thereof) of 3.

    won compared to what? how does one know they 'won' something if not
    compared against a standard (set by others).

    who are the, as you so eloquently put: "bitches". are they not the others?
    every normal man must be tempted, at times,
    to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag,
    and begin slitting throats.
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    None of them sound pleasant.

    1. Stick up the behind
    2. Busybodies
    3. Too image consciousness
    4. Too emo
    5. Know-it-alls
    6. Too neurotic
    7. Too hedonistic
    8. Too domineering
    9. Too passive/nonchalant

    Pick your poison.

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    It's a toss-up between 2 and 3. 2 scares me, personally, and I've had bad experiences with 2s trying to enmesh me. 3 can be so delightful, but when it's not, it can be disgusting to me, morally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glycerine View Post
    None of them sound pleasant.
    1. Stick up the behind
    2. Busybodies
    3. Too image consciousness
    4. Too emo
    5. Know-it-alls
    6. Too neurotic
    7. Too hedonistic
    8. Too domineering
    9. Too passive/nonchalant
    Pick your poison.
    hedonistic, domineering or know-it-all in that order
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    I would say 7 and 9. 7 because they seem to be fundamentally incapable of taking anything seriously, and 9 because they tend to be doormats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud of Thunder View Post
    I would say 7 and 9. 7 because they seem to be fundamentally incapable of taking anything seriously
    guilty. anything that doesn't result in instant gratification takes a ton of will power for me =(
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    I will add type 2 as well. I can't see myself ever being as altruistic as many 2s are.

    Basically the whole Positive Outlook triad for me.

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