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[Traditional Enneagram] INFJs: what's your enneagram type?
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CuriousFeeling
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Type 4. Deeply imaginative and creative with a dose of hopeless romantic in the mix. Definitely an individualist too.
ReadingRainbows
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I used to strongly believe I was a 2w1. Now I know better and have come to realize that I am a 4w5.
turospalacsinta
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I am 5w6.
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4w5 sp/so
Arclight
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OK..
This is probably going to make the hair on some your necks stand up, make you hiss at me like a cat and want to claw my eyes out for ever speaking such blasphemy, But I implore you to bear with me and at least consider what I am about to say.
Most INFJs seem to type as 4 or 5. But I digress from this.
INFJ is the text book example of fear VS courage.
INFJ is the natural intuitive.
Type 6 is not the ESTJ of the enneagramm. It is however the most misundertood type of the ennagramm.. Now don't you relate to that??
Type 6 is the natural intuitive.
Type 6 at it's best is a healthy INFJ. Thoughtful, Warm, Considerate,Confident, Magnetic,Captivating,Assertive,Insightful,A natural leader,Trusting,Engaging,Helpful,Accountable,Optimistic,Passionate and Instinctivly creative
Type 6 at it's worst is an unhealthy INFJ. Detached,Paranoid,Anti social,Deflective,Projective,Insecure,Shadow jumping,The whole world is out to get me, everything is a conspircacy,Cynical,Distrusting, Agressive,Lonely and Self destructive.
Type 4 is the romantic perceiver.. More suited to INFP (Your cousin)
Type 5 is the thinking observer..More suited to INTJ (Your other less appealing cousin
)
Type 6 is the Intuitive feeler.. More suited to INFJ ( YOU!!!!! )
Just something to ponder..
P.S. I am not crazy..
This is probably going to make the hair on some your necks stand up, make you hiss at me like a cat and want to claw my eyes out for ever speaking such blasphemy, But I implore you to bear with me and at least consider what I am about to say.
Most INFJs seem to type as 4 or 5. But I digress from this.
INFJ is the text book example of fear VS courage.
INFJ is the natural intuitive.
Type 6 is not the ESTJ of the enneagramm. It is however the most misundertood type of the ennagramm.. Now don't you relate to that??
Type 6 is the natural intuitive.
Type 6 at it's best is a healthy INFJ. Thoughtful, Warm, Considerate,Confident, Magnetic,Captivating,Assertive,Insightful,A natural leader,Trusting,Engaging,Helpful,Accountable,Optimistic,Passionate and Instinctivly creative
Type 6 at it's worst is an unhealthy INFJ. Detached,Paranoid,Anti social,Deflective,Projective,Insecure,Shadow jumping,The whole world is out to get me, everything is a conspircacy,Cynical,Distrusting, Agressive,Lonely and Self destructive.
Type 4 is the romantic perceiver.. More suited to INFP (Your cousin)
Type 5 is the thinking observer..More suited to INTJ (Your other less appealing cousin
)Type 6 is the Intuitive feeler.. More suited to INFJ ( YOU!!!!! )
Just something to ponder..
P.S. I am not crazy..
HollyGolightly
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Arclight you have a point. I thought I was a type 6 for these very reasons. I realise now that I am a type one (most likely a self preservation type one). I still relate to type 6 an awful lot...but type 1s are often mistyped as type 6. But when I read the type 6 description I do recognise a lot of INFJ traits, but I think you can do that with every type description as they are quite vague.
And I do believe that type 4 is most suited to INFP as opposed to INFJ. And whereas they say type 9 is most suited to INFP I think it could arguably be more suited to INFJ.
And I do believe that type 4 is most suited to INFP as opposed to INFJ. And whereas they say type 9 is most suited to INFP I think it could arguably be more suited to INFJ.
Arclight
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HollyGolightly
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Thank You Holly.. for not hissing and clawing my eyes out
Hey, who said I wasn't gonna hiss and claw your eyes out?
Quay
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OK..
This is probably going to make the hair on some your necks stand up, make you hiss at me like a cat and want to claw my eyes out for ever speaking such blasphemy, But I implore you to bear with me and at least consider what I am about to say.
Most INFJs seem to type as 4 or 5. But I digress from this.
INFJ is the text book example of fear VS courage.
INFJ is the natural intuitive.
Type 6 is not the ESTJ of the enneagramm. It is however the most misundertood type of the ennagramm.. Now don't you relate to that??
Type 6 is the natural intuitive.
Type 6 at it's best is a healthy INFJ. Thoughtful, Warm, Considerate,Confident, Magnetic,Captivating,Assertive,Insightful,A natural leader,Trusting,Engaging,Helpful,Accountable,Optimistic,Passionate and Instinctivly creative
Type 6 at it's worst is an unhealthy INFJ. Detached,Paranoid,Anti social,Deflective,Projective,Insecure,Shadow jumping,The whole world is out to get me, everything is a conspircacy,Cynical,Distrusting, Agressive,Lonely and Self destructive.
Type 4 is the romantic perceiver.. More suited to INFP (Your cousin)
Type 5 is the thinking observer..More suited to INTJ (Your other less appealing cousin
Type 6 is the Intuitive feeler.. More suited to INFJ ( YOU!!!!! )
Just something to ponder..
P.S. I am not crazy..
6w5 here.
Makes sense.
Vasilisa
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Somewhere someone on this site said that when you found your right enneagram profile and read it, it would be like looking into a mirror. I haven't found that yet, but I guess I relate closest to type 4 with sp/sx. I can't even settle on a wing, because I feel like I exhibit both.
AphroditeGoneAwry
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^Enneagram sucks, imo. I tested 4,2,1,5, etc., and none of them totally fit.
hybrid_rainbow
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I'm type 8w2...why is 8 so rare for INFJ?
SilkRoad
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I have narrowed it down to either 6w5 (though 6w7 occasionally sems to fit) or 9w1. I thought at first that 6 was it by far, but 9 seemed quite familiar when I looked more into it. Still haven't quite decided but I'm not looking into it as actively as I was a few months ago.
One of my best friends is also an INFJ, though sometimes she comes across more like INFP to me. But basically INFJ seems to fit very well. And although I don't think she's looked into the enneagram, she seems like a classic 4 (though not sure of the wing - maybe fairly balanced wings.) It's interesting, because when I realised that, it explained why INFJ makes sense for both of us, but it also explained some of the major differences I've noted.
It's interesting that so few people type themselves as 6, especially as it is supposed to be one of the most common types. I think people read it as cowardly, neurotic, or just not very nice or cool, which I don't think is the case at all...
"Six With a 5 Wing
Sixes with a 5 wing are generally introverted and somewhat intellectual. When healthy, they often have many realms of interest as well as surprising competencies and skills. May have an original and idiosyncratic point of view. Can be bookish; some are interested in history or feel rooted in the past or related to a long tradition. Also good at predicting the future. May test potential friends for a long time but once you're in, you're in - a friend for life. When more entranced, they may project a willed remoteness. Have a "tip of the iceberg" quality - they show little but you sense hidden dimensions, intensity and activity. Tension between needing to be seen and withdrawing for protection. Might act arrogant or cryptic or cynical when afraid. When phobic, can be diplomatic and say things without saying them. Entranced counterphobics are either cool and loners or argumentative, tending towards violence. Can brood over injustices to them, entertain conspiracy theories, spend time alone building cases. Paranoia in private. May like secretive behind-the-scenes group activity. Sneaky vengeance, passive/aggressive toward others, self-attacking and self-destructive at home."
This sounds quite a lot like me, and if it is supposed to fit with ISFJ, I do know that I am an ISFJ-ish INFJ.
One of my best friends is also an INFJ, though sometimes she comes across more like INFP to me. But basically INFJ seems to fit very well. And although I don't think she's looked into the enneagram, she seems like a classic 4 (though not sure of the wing - maybe fairly balanced wings.) It's interesting, because when I realised that, it explained why INFJ makes sense for both of us, but it also explained some of the major differences I've noted.
It's interesting that so few people type themselves as 6, especially as it is supposed to be one of the most common types. I think people read it as cowardly, neurotic, or just not very nice or cool, which I don't think is the case at all...
"Six With a 5 Wing
Sixes with a 5 wing are generally introverted and somewhat intellectual. When healthy, they often have many realms of interest as well as surprising competencies and skills. May have an original and idiosyncratic point of view. Can be bookish; some are interested in history or feel rooted in the past or related to a long tradition. Also good at predicting the future. May test potential friends for a long time but once you're in, you're in - a friend for life. When more entranced, they may project a willed remoteness. Have a "tip of the iceberg" quality - they show little but you sense hidden dimensions, intensity and activity. Tension between needing to be seen and withdrawing for protection. Might act arrogant or cryptic or cynical when afraid. When phobic, can be diplomatic and say things without saying them. Entranced counterphobics are either cool and loners or argumentative, tending towards violence. Can brood over injustices to them, entertain conspiracy theories, spend time alone building cases. Paranoia in private. May like secretive behind-the-scenes group activity. Sneaky vengeance, passive/aggressive toward others, self-attacking and self-destructive at home."
This sounds quite a lot like me, and if it is supposed to fit with ISFJ, I do know that I am an ISFJ-ish INFJ.
HollyGolightly
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You know, a lot of people think they are Type 6 when they are actually Type 1 and vice versa. Not saying an INFJ can't be a Type 6 but I related to the Type 6 description and for a long time I listed myself as Type 6. But as I got to know myself more I worked out that I do have 6-ish traits (anxiety, "tip of the iceberg" quality, distrusting of others) but fear isn't the root of these traits (fear is often behind most things as six does or feels). I also types myself as a 6 when I was going through a difficult time and I related to the descriptions of how they are security seeking etc. But I do agree that the descriptions (in particular 6w5) sounds very INFJ-ish.
