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    Question Enneagram???

    I still don't understand what Enneagram type is supposed to say about a person.
    (...and I'm still unsure about my enneagram type )

    So,
    What is Enneagram type supposed to tell about a person?
    How does it add to MBTI type?
    Any book recommendations about Enneagram types?

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    enneagram type is about primary and secondary motivations....the why you do things
    mbti is about how
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    If it's about motivation, then does Enneagram type change over time because motivations certainly do change? Or what do you mean by motivation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcea Rosea View Post
    If it's about motivation, then does Enneagram type change over time because motivations certainly do change? Or what do you mean by motivation?
    once you take the test
    the results are as such :

    I need to be _____ to be happy

    ____ being the motivation
    depending on the number
    its different

    1 is perfect to be happy
    4 is different to be happy

    Personality Tests and Tools
    go down to enneagram and short test
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    I have done the test several times.
    I'm usually 9 or 7.

    ...but I still need to understand the enneagram and I don't understand it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcea Rosea View Post
    I have done the test several times.
    I'm usually 9 or 7.

    ...but I still need to understand the enneagram and I don't understand it now.
    have you gone through the typical enneagram correlations between types ?

    and what confuses you ?
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    I don't understand what is the point with Enneagram that is why I asked for descriptions.
    How can I identify Enneagram types in people if it's about motivation?
    How can I identify hidden motivations?

    According to this

    The Enneagram is a powerful and dynamic personality system that describes nine distinct and fundamentally different patterns of thinking, feeling and acting.

    So, it's a personality tool anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcea Rosea View Post
    I don't understand what is the point with Enneagram that is why I asked for descriptions.
    How can I identify Enneagram types in people if it's about motivation?
    How can I identify hidden motivations?

    According to this

    The Enneagram is a powerful and dynamic personality system that describes nine distinct and fundamentally different patterns of thinking, feeling and acting.

    So, it's a personality tool anyway?
    you ENFP's are a hoot
    so cute and wild like a bear
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcea Rosea View Post
    I have done the test several times.
    I'm usually 9 or 7.

    ...but I still need to understand the enneagram and I don't understand it now.

    9 or 7 makes sense for ENFP.


    I think that there are a few really cool things that the Enneagram offers that other systems don't.

    1- points of integration (growth) and disintegration (stress). This is what sold me on my type (4). In my stressful and unhealthy moments, I disintegrate towards a dysfunctional version of the 2 (Helper type) in which I become clingy and invasive. In my healthy, developing moments, I integrate towards 1 (Reformer), showing strong principles and objectivity.

    2-Instinctual Variants. Each type could be three sub-types: social, sexual, or self-preservational. Here is some information about that.

    3-Health levels. One site explains what healthy vs. unhealthy types resemble. I find this pretty useful in self-verifying your enneagram type, because you should probably recognize what you're like at your best and your worst.
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    "I can never be what I ought to be until you are what you ought to be. You can never be what you ought to be until I am what I ought to be. This is the interrelated structure of reality." -Martin Luther King, Jr.

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    I find it more helpful to take a "status quo" snapshot of myself or others (I'm 9w1 here). Maybe I need to do more research, but it doesnt do quite such a good job of explaining why things happen (eg shadows, unhealthy) - it seems more descriptive than predictive.

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