Yeah, the title pretty much says it all. I am having a difficult time deciding of I am a 7w8 or an 8w7. Or maybe I am neither! I don't know an incredible amount about enneagram, so it would be great to have input.
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Ring 7: Primary fear is of pain and deprivation. Life's purpose is to avoid both pain and deprivation, to seek, to enjoy, to explore, etc.
Ring 8: Primary fear is of being controlled. Life's purpose is to be in charge, to be on top of things, to be the force of order.
I am ESTP 7w8.
One of my best friends is ENTP 8w7.
We are VERY similar.
BUT - when push comes to shove, I'm a fun-loving person who has their shit together and makes things happen, and he is a very motivated person who also happens to have a bit of a wild streak.
We have THE SAME "innate motivations," but my primary motivation is his secondary, and vice versa.
SO - you might be a 7, 8, 7w8, or 8w7.
Wadda' think so far?
my 8w7 best friend and I are the same way
ENFP: We put the Fi in Fire
Motivation: Dark Worker
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
MTG Color: black/red
Male Archtype: King/Lover
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If control isn't the center of your motivation's attention in some way, shape, or form at all times.. I'd consider 7w8. I'm not sure how strongly you really oppose to being controlled, but thinking about it: everything I do in life can be summed up in that single word.
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You sound like an Enneagram 7 to me.
Roughly speaking, if an ENTP is more like an ESTP he is usually a 7 and if he is more like an ENTJ he is usually a 8.
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A man creates. A parasite says, 'What will the neighbors think?'
A man invents. A parasite says, 'Watch out, or you might tread on the toes of God... '
I'd venture to say seven, just going off the general tone of your posts here. A great number of people are opposed to being controlled, but what I think separates the eight is that it's their primary fear, so the more unhealthy ones will overcompensate by controlling everyone around them too.
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Originally Posted by Antimony
By function, I am strong in Ne, Ti, slightly so in Fe and fairly strong (and growing) in Se.
You might even be 7w8, as you've got the Ti and Fe going on...
I like being a 7w8, to me it's the best of both worlds.
By nature I am a free spirited adventurer, but I am also very ambitious and motivated.
When properly balanced, these traits allow one to create a very fun, satisfying and successful life.
I'm sure 8w7s do just as well, I don't know any who are a stick in the mud, or a workaholic.
Now then, have you figured out your instinctual variants? (e.g. "SX", "SO, and "SP")