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    Whisky Old & Women Young Speed Gavroche's Avatar
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    All of that is bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    All of that is bullshit.
    Same could be said about the enneagram itself, or any typological system, really. I say, let them have their fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbringer View Post
    Same could be said about the enneagram itself, or any typological system, really. I say, let them have their fun.
    Enneagram is accurate, Zang's theory is bullshit, end of the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Enneagram is accurate, Zang's theory is bullshit, end of the story.
    Does the enneagram have any scientific proof to back it up apart from some people's observations?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbringer View Post
    Does the enneagram have any scientific proof to back it up apart from some people's observations?
    http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/research.asp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huxley3112 View Post
    That's actually interesting to know. I'm still not convinced the theory is sound, but I'll have to read those articles to see what exactly was researched.
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    Little Linguist is an excited 13. She certainly doesn't conform to any of the original 9 types, but I guess Speed Gavroche must have an alternate explanation for that. So Speed Gavroche, do sociopaths and psychopaths each have a their own varying Enneagram type, or are they their own Enneagram-esque type? It seems to me my set up makes far more rational sense than your limiting blanket refutation. I don't expect to see you muster a substantive response, since you weren't capable of one in the first place, just pointing out some flaws...

    http://ge.tt/8947GG7 this shows the system in diagrammatic form, for those who want to see more of the my theory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Enneagram is accurate, Zang's theory is bullshit, end of the story.
    To disregard a hypothesis you do not understand is awfully presumptuous of you.

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    11: fear making their pain visible--- desire: pleasure (hedonism)
    12: fear of interference(not so sure) --- desire: correctness
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    12: fear of being cajoled --- desire: to be self directed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbringer View Post
    Does the enneagram have any scientific proof to back it up apart from some people's observations?
    Enneagram's accuracy is validated by experience, yes.
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