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    can't handcuff the wind Z Buck McFate's Avatar
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    Default Birth order and enneatype

    Has anyone read anything about birth order and enneatype, regarding any consistent correlations? Any books to recommend, or links to share? What brings this to mind is I was wondering the other day if e8s tend to be older siblings, but I'm curious about whatever correlations exist for any type.

    I'm also wondering about instinct variant. I'd be surprised if birth order played much of a role in variants, though I am curious about similar stackings between siblings.
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    I'm the eldest, and I'am a 6, my young brother is a 7. Actually, it's a pattern I often see actually: the eldest child is a 6, the second one is a 7, especially if they are of the same sex.

    I think it's because the eldest have to deal with an inexperienced, unpredictable, more severe and less prepared authority, and receive more reponsability, while the second have to deal with a more stable, more carefree and safe environment and can use charm and manipulation more easily to disarm authority because they are more cute and the parents are more at ease and friendly with them.
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    I'm the eldest of two (my brother is a 7), and I'm a 5.
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    Eldeat, 7w8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Z Buck McFate View Post
    Has anyone read anything about birth order and enneatype, regarding any consistent correlations? Any books to recommend, or links to share? What brings this to mind is I was wondering the other day if e8s tend to be older siblings, but I'm curious about whatever correlations exist for any type.

    I'm also wondering about instinct variant. I'd be surprised if birth order played much of a role in variants, though I am curious about similar stackings between siblings.
    Interestingly...the only thing I have ever come across with regards to enneagram and birth order...did have to do with with instinct variants. It was just this little blip that stated 'e7s that were oldest siblings were most likely to be self-preservation first' (not very helpful for your thread - I know...but I will still see if I can find where I got that).

    ^^other than that...I've never read anything on this subject...but I haven't been searching either. I am now very interested in what people might know about this.

    Keeping in line with the responses...(my family)

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    2nd counterphobic 6 (unsure of wing)
    3rd 7w6
    4th 1w2

    My father was an only child of a domineering ExFJ mother...and he is INTJ 5w6 (counterphobic 6 wing)

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    Older brother: 5w6
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    One example I can think of:

    Oldest - 7
    Middle - Counterphobic 6
    Youngest - 4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    I think it's because the eldest have to deal with an inexperienced, unpredictable, more severe and less prepared authority, and receive more reponsability, while the second have to deal with a more stable, more carefree and safe environment and can use charm and manipulation more easily to disarm authority because they are more cute and the parents are more at ease and friendly with them.
    I've noticed this too. Older siblings are like trial subjects, and then parents become more laid back with the younger ones. It's really frustrating for the oldest to watch the younger ones get away with things they would never have gotten away with. I can remember several of my eldest-sibling friends constantly complaining about that when we were younger.


    As for me:
    Older sister 9w8 sp/so (not certain of instinct variant, certain of etype)
    Me 5w4 sp/sx
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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    One example I can think of:

    Oldest - 7
    Middle - Counterphobic 6
    Youngest - 4
    This example is similiar to mine and thus is of interest to me. Do you know the MBTI's involved? Or the parents MBTI's? No biggie if you don't...but like I said it is of interest to me

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