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    Secret Sex Freak Hazashin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwace View Post
    hmm semantics I should have made that you weren't counterphobic

    OH SHIT THAT WAS SO ENGLISH FAIL LOL SRY :P
    It's okay.

    So you're going with phobic 6w5?

    Also, if you don't mind, could you highlight the other characteristics and highlight which type each of them are by colorcoding them like you did with 4 and 6?
    MBTI: INFP
    Enneagram: 6w7, phobic
    Tritype: 6-9-2
    Instinctual Variant: Sx/Sp
    Temperament: Pure Supine
    D&D Alignment: Neutral Good
    Political Stance: Solid Liberal
    Religious Views: Atheist

    Fi > Ne > Ti > Fe > Se > Si > Te > Ni

    "Forgiveness means letting go of the past." ~ Gerald Jampolsky
    "I am justice!" ~ Light Yagami, Death Note
    "The choices people make tell you a lot about a person, but the reasons [...] tell you even more." ~ Albus Dumbledore (paraphrased)

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    most of the stuff in your list has nothing to do with your enneagram type. enneagram is not about traits. its about your deepest relationship to reality. meditate and feel into it. what is your core interpretation of beeing an individual in this world. is it about being lost, about being nobody, about being hatet, about being controlled, come up with your own words. what is your assumption about the character of life, of 'Other', of god, of nature and what implications follows from this, for your view of your self: who do you think you have to be, in order to be in a good relationship with this world, or who or what or how do you have to avoid to be, in order to be 'good with' reality, what feelings or ideas do you try to avoid, what is it, that must not become 'true' because it is 'so bad' and why do you think it is 'so bad' and what does that mean about your image of reality (to follow your core-reasoning into the opposite direction, back to 'Other'). what comes first to mind, when you feel into 'Otherness' is it impersonal, intentional, approachable, automatical, demanding, sucking, pushing, judgning, ignoring, those can be clues about the triad, to begin with.

    as long as you can not answer these questions, using introspection, you do not know your type! (it is not easy, don't be ashamed, basically no one can do it ) - once you feel that you know the answer you will begin to understand types better and you will be able to see with which type your felt core-interpretation correlates with best. until then, the types are only meant to give you a vague idea about what to look out for IN your self. what feelings, or issues. don't give authority to specialists to tell you what your type is. trust me, you already have false self (the type is such a false self, for the core-interpretation has no justified basis in reality and getting beyond it is the whole point of the enneagramm), you don't need another one, which consists of a bunch of traits from a website.

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    I have to agree with Nanook. Your enneagram type should fit you more than just through traits and descriptions. It's about what motivates you and what causes you stress, as well as how you react to stress. Your descriptions are quite detailed, but I think they could still fit with a lot of types, so I'm not really sure how well we can type you based on just that.

    I came across this site yesterday, and I think it could help you: http://sites.google.com/site/upatel8/personalitytype6. It gives very in-depth information about the levels of development that I've never seen anywhere else. You can also explore different types by clicking on the links at the top.

    Hazashin, I think if you really are a six, you should be able to identify with some of the secondary fears and desires. If they don't seem right, I would suggest looking at five. It could just be my bias since that's my type, but I see a lot what could be five from your description. Of course, four and nine are strong possibilities as well, but you described feelings of angst and anxiety, which happens to be the emotion that corresponds to types six and five.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RevlisZero View Post
    I came across this site yesterday, and I think it could help you: http://sites.google.com/site/upatel8/personalitytype6. It gives very in-depth information about the levels of development that I've never seen anywhere else. You can also explore different types by clicking on the links at the top.
    Holy shit, I JUST started reading it, and I've already came across something I really relate to:
    Sixes are not necessarily "group people," but they like the feeling of "belonging" somewhere—of being part of something greater than themselves. They enjoy being of service and really want to contribute to the world. They bring reliability, responsibility, hard work, and a sense of honor to all their affairs. They approach others as if to say, "I am here for you. You can count on me."
    MBTI: INFP
    Enneagram: 6w7, phobic
    Tritype: 6-9-2
    Instinctual Variant: Sx/Sp
    Temperament: Pure Supine
    D&D Alignment: Neutral Good
    Political Stance: Solid Liberal
    Religious Views: Atheist

    Fi > Ne > Ti > Fe > Se > Si > Te > Ni

    "Forgiveness means letting go of the past." ~ Gerald Jampolsky
    "I am justice!" ~ Light Yagami, Death Note
    "The choices people make tell you a lot about a person, but the reasons [...] tell you even more." ~ Albus Dumbledore (paraphrased)

    Tatiana ♥

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    6w5, self-preservation.
    EsTP 6w7 Sx/Sp

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    E=60% S=55% T=70% P=80%

    "I don't believe in guilt, I only believe in living on impulses"

    "Stereotypes about personality and gender turn out to be fairly accurate: ... On the binary Myers-Briggs measure, the thinking-feeling breakdown is about 30/70 for women versus 60/40 for men." ~ Bryan Caplan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    6w5, self-preservation.
    What makes you think Self Preservation?
    MBTI: INFP
    Enneagram: 6w7, phobic
    Tritype: 6-9-2
    Instinctual Variant: Sx/Sp
    Temperament: Pure Supine
    D&D Alignment: Neutral Good
    Political Stance: Solid Liberal
    Religious Views: Atheist

    Fi > Ne > Ti > Fe > Se > Si > Te > Ni

    "Forgiveness means letting go of the past." ~ Gerald Jampolsky
    "I am justice!" ~ Light Yagami, Death Note
    "The choices people make tell you a lot about a person, but the reasons [...] tell you even more." ~ Albus Dumbledore (paraphrased)

    Tatiana ♥

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    You say you are phobic and you don't seem really oriented to the feisty style of Sx 6, oriented toward strength and beauty. Not especially rogue, and also, not group oriented,and then, not So. Self-pres so.
    EsTP 6w7 Sx/Sp

    Chaotic Neutral

    E=60% S=55% T=70% P=80%

    "I don't believe in guilt, I only believe in living on impulses"

    "Stereotypes about personality and gender turn out to be fairly accurate: ... On the binary Myers-Briggs measure, the thinking-feeling breakdown is about 30/70 for women versus 60/40 for men." ~ Bryan Caplan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    You say you are phobic and you don't seem really oriented to the feisty style of Sx 6, oriented toward strength and beauty. Not especially rogue, and also, not group oriented,and then, not So. Self-pres so.
    Here, I'll bold anything I relate to and cross out anything I don't relate to in the Self Preservation instinct description from www.enneagraminstitute.com's website:

    People who have this as their dominant instinct are preoccupied with the safety, comfort, health, energy, and well-being of the physical body. In a word, they are concerned with having enough resources to meet life's demands. Identification with the body is a fundamental focus for all humans, and we need our body to function well in order to be alive and active in the world. Most people in contemporary cultures are not faced life or death "survival" in the strictest sense; thus, Self-Preservation types tend to be concerned with food, money, housing, medical matters, and physical comfort. Moreover, those primarily focused on self-preservation, by extension, are usually interested in maintaining these resources for others as well. Their focus of attention naturally goes towards things related to these areas such as clothes, temperature, shopping, decorating, and the like, particularly if they are not satisfied in these areas or have a feeling of deficiency due to their childhoods. Self-Pres types tend to be more grounded, practical, serious, and introverted than the other two instinctual types. They might have active social lives and a satisfying intimate relationship, but if they feel that their self-preservation needs are not being met, still tend not to be happy or at ease. In their primary relationships, these people are "nesters"—they seek domestic tranquility and security with a stable, reliable partner.
    Are you still thinking Sp?
    MBTI: INFP
    Enneagram: 6w7, phobic
    Tritype: 6-9-2
    Instinctual Variant: Sx/Sp
    Temperament: Pure Supine
    D&D Alignment: Neutral Good
    Political Stance: Solid Liberal
    Religious Views: Atheist

    Fi > Ne > Ti > Fe > Se > Si > Te > Ni

    "Forgiveness means letting go of the past." ~ Gerald Jampolsky
    "I am justice!" ~ Light Yagami, Death Note
    "The choices people make tell you a lot about a person, but the reasons [...] tell you even more." ~ Albus Dumbledore (paraphrased)

    Tatiana ♥

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazashin View Post
    Here, I'll bold anything I relate to and cross out anything I don't relate to in the Self Preservation instinct description from www.enneagraminstitute.com's website:



    Are you still thinking Sp?
    I don't know.
    EsTP 6w7 Sx/Sp

    Chaotic Neutral

    E=60% S=55% T=70% P=80%

    "I don't believe in guilt, I only believe in living on impulses"

    "Stereotypes about personality and gender turn out to be fairly accurate: ... On the binary Myers-Briggs measure, the thinking-feeling breakdown is about 30/70 for women versus 60/40 for men." ~ Bryan Caplan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    I don't know.
    Are you having trouble seeing me as an Sx-dom because of I'm a very phobic version of 6 who is not ambitious or assertive at all?
    MBTI: INFP
    Enneagram: 6w7, phobic
    Tritype: 6-9-2
    Instinctual Variant: Sx/Sp
    Temperament: Pure Supine
    D&D Alignment: Neutral Good
    Political Stance: Solid Liberal
    Religious Views: Atheist

    Fi > Ne > Ti > Fe > Se > Si > Te > Ni

    "Forgiveness means letting go of the past." ~ Gerald Jampolsky
    "I am justice!" ~ Light Yagami, Death Note
    "The choices people make tell you a lot about a person, but the reasons [...] tell you even more." ~ Albus Dumbledore (paraphrased)

    Tatiana ♥

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