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    Quote Originally Posted by RevlisZero View Post
    I wonder the same thing. The description for type four overall sounds slightly better to me, and it's the same with the levels. But I don't identify at all with the instinctual variants for type four. Maybe something's missing, maybe we're not fulling understanding this, or maybe we're we're just right on the border of 4 and 5. If we were, what would we call ourselves? e4½?
    I know, it's goofy. I did what you did in your what's my type thread and read all the enneagram blogspot stuff. The instinctual variant descriptions I related to the most were sx 5, 7, 2, 4 and sp 9. I was surprised, actually, how much I related to aspects of the 2, which got me thinking maybe I'm a 5w4 with a 5-9-2 tritype, I dunno. I'm more confused than ever.

    I can say this-

    Some descriptions of four I relate to much, some I don't relate to at all.
    For another viewpoint, my husband says it's ' really weird' when I'm pms'ing because otherwise I am never bitchy. He also says that over all I am the opposite of our cat; in other words, I'm not emotionally needy. My husband is way more emotionally needy and demonstrative than I am, by the way. I am very reserved, contained, self-sufficient, private, non verbal for the most part, awkward with intimacy, but also kind and empathetic. When I meet someone with whom I feel a connection I become very open and enthusiastic, fun and flirty. If I fear that person isn't interested in being a part of my life, I can get manipulative and coy and fearful. If I lose interest I feel a sense of relief because now I can go back to being my usual self. I married my husband because we have fun and he loves me and I feel comfortable with him, I never got into the crazy obsessive insecure thing with him. It was easy.
    Some negatives to that are I don't fully feel like I share myself with him, I keep a lot inside because he doesn't get a lot of what I think, it's too dark and cerebral and odd. This creates a distance which sometimes is fine with me, sometimes makes me feel alone and detached.
    Sorry, that was a lot of blabbing.

    Leaning toward sx 5 or sx 9, but-dare I say- fives seem too geeky and thinking center and nines seem too happy and absent, while fours seem too brooding and temperamental... Blah

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    I thought the main characteristic of a five was "knowledge hoarding"

    I'm a generally happy 4 -- so I don't really identify with a lot of the emo descriptions of 4. But, I know that somewhere deep down inside me resides this secret fear of being "just another one of them" -- that I'm mediocre. I also secretly identify with being emo and broken and oh-so-unique-and-tragic -- so I know I'm a 4.

    I identify somewhat with 5s in that I feel like I need to be equipped with knowledge in order to deal with the world. Fives try to understand the world in order to define their place in it and feel safe?

    I don't think 9s are generally happy and absent. I think their ultimate comfort zone is a happy, safe place, but it's not true that they are there all the time. Like I said in the other thread, I think my INFP bf is a 9w1, but he identifies a lot with 4 and 5 too!
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    Hehe, you wanted me to help you in return so here I am...

    The thing is that all those instinctual variant and variant stacking descriptions also confuse me quite a lot. I guess they actually confuse everybody... In the end I've just decided to not pay any attention to them.

    I'm most likely a 6(w7) but if I went with what the variant descirptions say, I would be a 4 or a 5. I also do score 4 on all tests followed by 6 and 5 and then 9. And I neither relate to the variant descriptions of the 6 nor do I relate to most regular descriptions of it.

    ...so maybe you're as 6 as well... (hm...couldn't find a regular innocent angel smiley)
    Just saying...might be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plush Cat View Post
    And I neither relate to the variant descriptions of the 6 nor do I relate to most regular descriptions of it.
    If you don't relate to the descriptions or variants of 6, then how do you figure that's your type?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RevlisZero View Post
    If you don't relate to the descriptions or variants of 6, then how do you figure that's your type?
    Because I've had several people type me based on information I gave them about myself and videos and based on what they had seen me write on the forums (PerC).

    I also got 5w4 4w5 9w1 as a test result on PerC...btw. But that tritype wouldn't fit me afaik.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RevlisZero View Post
    If you don't relate to the descriptions or variants of 6, then how do you figure that's your type?
    Yeah, I don't understand this either. I've read lots about six and considered it in the past and it is really not my deal, but thanks.

    I get these enneathoughts sent to me daily, both nine and four. The four ones tend to speak to me more than the nine, like today: the four asked what would happen if I stopped spending so much time trying to understand myself vs the nine it was about maintaining peace. I def do way more of the former. And way too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brainheart View Post
    The four ones tend to speak to me more than the nine, like today: the four asked what would happen if I stopped spending so much time trying to understand myself vs the nine it was about maintaining peace. I def do way more of the former. And way too much.
    yup...same here... ...just saying.

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    Hmm...sorry...

    What I wanted to add is that I do think descriptions are quite misleading. I can relate to a description as much as I want. But if I compare myself to the people that the type 4 description was actually based upon, I will see that the description probably isn't describing me. And as I said: I don't relate to type 6 descriptions. But when I compare myself to people that description was supposed to describe, I can actually - reluctantly - relate a bit more to them.

    You might be a 4 or 5 after all. But I'm just an example of how mistypings can happen based on descriptions...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plush Cat View Post
    Hmm...sorry...

    What I wanted to add is that I do think descriptions are quite misleading. I can relate to a description as much as I want. But if I compare myself to the people that the type 4 description was actually based upon, I will see that the description probably isn't describing me. And as I said: I don't relate to type 6 descriptions. But when I compare myself to people that description was supposed to describe, I can actually - reluctantly - relate a bit more to them.
    This is a good point. That's usually what makes me wonder, the difference between me and other fours. Since you are about the third or fourth person to tell me to consider six, I will consider it.

    Any advice/sources that could be helpful/useful?

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    The worst thing you can do is trawl descriptions - there's never going to be one that describes you, so you'll never be quite content. The best thing you can do is identify the compulsions that drive each type, and then identify the compulsions that drive you.

    If something fits, it fits. If it doesn't, it doesn't. Don't drive yourself crazy over it, this isn't a perfect system. At least you learned something about yourself in the process.
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