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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymphie View Post
    This is seriously awesome! So yeah, here's how it goes:

    4w5 - YOU NEED TO BE UNIQUE! WITHDRAW, WITHDRAW! *EMOTIONZ*
    7w6 - STIMULATION! STIMULATION!
    9w1 - Calm down guys. Seriously. Stop yelling. Jeesh.

    Notice how I just downplayed the emotions part, even though they're pretty vital? Yup.
    Hey all! Long time lurker, first time poster. Not sure if anyone's still following this thread, but thought I'd choose this spot to introduce myself and see if I am in fact one of you.

    To start off, I identify like crazy with @Nymphie's quick summary above (and @brainheart's longer description earlier) of what is (I think) my exact tritype...except substitute "Planning! Dreams! Intricate entrepreneurial ideas that I'll start and then get bored with! Also move overseas and then immediately start looking to the next (or previous) thing!" for at least one "STIMULATION!" next to 7w6. Guessing this is because I'm sp/sx instead of sx/sp and am always looking for ways to be able to just stay home (or travel) and not go be stuck in a stupid cubicle somewhere.

    I think the main reason I don't fully identify with this tritype is that my heavy 6 and 1 wings make me much more normative and compliant than probably many of you feel compelled to be. I feel pretty inhibited and anxious for a 4 and 9, and especially for a 7. This in turn makes me even doubt my 4-ness because I see so many other people being more creative and authentic than I am (especially ENFPs and INFPs, it seems). But of course, then I envy them like crazy and also sort of hate them a little....so I think I am a 4 after all. And also I really am fairly creative and authentic (more of an INFJ insightful with some 7w6 brainstorming powers and a general eye for beauty)...just not as much as I wish I was, you know?

    So what do you all think? Am I one of you? Am I even a 4? If not I'm probably a 9, though I really think I'm WAY too self-conscious and sensitive and envious and longing for that. Ultimately I'm an absent-minded professor/photographer who wants to think and feel deep thoughts and feelings and be seen as super profound and beautiful for having them (4w5) while staying free to dream and plan and move and start stuff (7w6) all while cuddling with my hubbie and puppy and kids in a tidy little house and having everyone love each other and no one ever be mad (9w1). And really is that too much to ask of life? Thing is, I know it is, and as a 4 that's what makes me so deeply sad sometimes I don't know how I'll bear it.

    Sorry, let's attempt to end on an up note. I'm really happy to finally be joining the conversation here. Thanks for reading, guys!
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    Quote Originally Posted by brainheart View Post
    Fives- deep sea divers of thought
    Argumentative, nit picky when it comes to their ideas
    Difficulty socializing, always seem stiff and somewhat formal, odd

    Sevens- deep for a bit then onto something else
    Teasing, playful argumentative, go for the general over the specific
    Some may be socially awkward initially, but then they get into the groove and are talkative, likeable.

    My feeling, anyway.
    Yep, I've got both of these, plus a 6 wing in the back saying, "Are you crazy with all this unnecessary deep-sea diving and scanning? You've got to figure out something for certain here if you're going to make it in this world, so just choose a system of thought and be done. And also you need to shut your brain off and get sleep or you're going to be exhausted tomorrow because you're a 4w5 and also a 9w1 with limited energy, but people are expecting things of you and you can't make them angry!" And then I curl up in a ball and feel sorry for myself (all while continuing to think about all the fun and deep things) because no one else has such terrible troubles as me.

    UPDATE: Dammit, I might be a core 6w7. I have wondered it before, but I feel way too idealistic and absent-minded to be one. But I'm pretty dang anxious and fearful of physical danger and especially other people's anger. Any 4s want to weigh in? Do I seem like a 649 with a heavy 7 wing instead? If so, you might not be my people, 479s, but I still think you're my husband's. It's probably his fault I identify so well with all of you, after 8 years of marriage to him. Maybe you'll let me continue to hang here and get to know you all better, and pretend I'm one of you because I sort of want to be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amazonia View Post

    UPDATE: Dammit, am I really a 6w7? I feel way too introverted and idealistic and absent-minded to be one. But I'm pretty dang anxious and fearful of physical danger and other people's anger. Any 4s want to weigh in?

    If you are really INFJ then this automatically pushes you towards 4 even if you are not one. However under named circumstances I would suggest exploring 6w5 and the fact that you may have a 6 fix and strong Sp instinct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtual ghost View Post
    If you are really INFJ then this automatically pushes you towards 4 even if you are not one. However under named circumstances I would suggest exploring 6w5 and the fact that you may have a 6 fix and strong Sp instinct.
    Hey, thanks for your input! I am almost certain I'm INFJ and have explored other options pretty extensively, but will definitely keep considering; I know lots of people mistype that. I have also explored 6w5, but I really feel the pull toward 7 with wanting to escape responsibility and have freedom to make fun plans and travel the world and experience different cultures and start new business ventures with other people and then bail...all of which I have done. My husband and I have moved overseas twice and then moved back home to be near family and friends and do grown-up responsibilities, all at my instigating. So I could really see 6w7 4w5 9w1 making sense out of that.

    Attaching the 5 to the 4 fix seems likely; I am very sensitive to criticism of my deeper thoughts and ideas and theories, so I keep those pretty private even from closest family and friends. Yet I have lots of unrealistic 7-ish schemes in me, too, and those I'm thrilled to talk about with anyone who will listen, while probably being a neurotic 6w7 all the while. "Do you still like me even though I have lots of weird, crazy theories and ideas?" Ugh.

    UPDATE: OK, I think you got me. It's looking very possible I am actually an ENTP. And the 5-ishness I feel is probably from being an SP-first head-type, and really I'm less private (w5) than I am worried people will laugh at me (6+9+4w3 all put together, likely). Thanks again for your feedback!
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    The first time I ever got into Enneagram, I was 4w3-7w6-9w1.
    Yet I know, if I stepped aside
    Released the controls, you would open my eyes
    That somehow, all of this mess
    Is just my attempt to know the worth of my life
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    I might be this tritype....
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    Update:

    Had my Enneagram did. Couple of longtime friends didn’t think the tritype jived with how I go about things (disintegration/integration).

    I felt iffy too. Wasn’t sure if it was really off or if I was misleading myself? Confusion ensued

    Knew I was most definitely 4 & 7. It was the 1 gut, niggling in the back of my mind.

    This thread was HELPFUL. Humbling, in helping me see why I had been resistant to the idea of 9 (blush) during the appointment.
    @Kasper Life changing! Immediately recognized myself in your words. @Santosha Revelatory! The gentle bad ass-dom @Amargith Elusive trickery! I too seldom unsheath claws and give fair warning first @King sns, yours was the BEST resource for helping me differentiate between 1 and 9 on a personal level:

    The Enneagram Blogspot: Type 7: Stimulation-Seeker


    Previously rejected the 479 tritype because of it being deemed: the ‘sprite/fairy’, ’escapist’ or ‘healing’ variant. These quotes helped bring clarity:

    * This is the gentle soul tritype that has a healing presence on others whether or not they intend to so. When it says healer this is what it means as opposed to being vocationally attracted to the healing arts (although this is very common with this tritype).

    * The blindspot is missed opportunities to speak their truth and glossing over negative feeling states in favor of something more comfortable or positive.

    * The emphasis is on having an image that is deep but not seen as difficult. Suffering is more private. With 9 it (whatever "it" may be) must be transmuted into something lyrical, optimistic, light, beautiful or playful to be tolerable.

    * 479 and 379 deemed the "cool guy" tritypes. When 4 is there you get that sort of archetype of the cool artist, laid back, playful, witty, but with a sort of "hidden sorrow". You sense there is more there but that they are keeping you at bay in order to avoid dipping too much into the swamp.

    * 479 is more future oriented, focusing on the possibilities.

    * Your Achilles heel is that you can be so focused on ideal circumstances that you fail to speak your higher truth and act in accordance with your true feelings. Speak your truth even if it will create conflict with others. Going along to get along or to keep things light and upbeat denies the truth of the moment. Higher love has a voice and true joy is not dependent on a happy image.

    Focused on the weaknesses that brought recognition personally - but as anyone of this tritype knows - the positive/healthy aspects are pretty kick ass too
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    Who else is a fellow gentle spirit?
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    ... Figured out I'm one. Hi.

    Honestly, "gentle spirit" reminds me of that "courage" tarot. Gently taming a lion. That's quite badass to me, but I may be reaching. :P
    "You’re on Earth. There’s no cure for that."
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