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View Poll Results: Do you idolize your secondary enneagram type (tritype)?

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  • Yes! I do, I wish I could be like that all the time!

    3 23.08%
  • Err...no, there's a reason I'm mainly the first type here.

    4 30.77%
  • No, I idolize my third type actually.

    2 15.38%
  • Don't know, who cares.

    3 23.08%
  • Not sure...sometimes, perhaps

    1 7.69%
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    Isn't a component of the theory of tritype, having multiple coping tools, if the first set doesn't work, etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenaphor View Post
    Isn't a component of the theory of tritype, having multiple coping tools, if the first set doesn't work, etc?
    Isn't the whole thing based on how you switch strategies when the initial approach isn't working?

    Let's say you're an 8 and things aren't working out. You change strategy to something similar to a 6. But does your motivation change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by unsung View Post
    Isn't the whole thing based on how you switch strategies when the initial approach isn't working?

    Let's say you're an 8 and things aren't working out. You change strategy to something similar to a 6. But does your motivation change?
    Agreed on the first rhetorical question.

    Isn't it possible to have multiple motivations? Are we all singularly focused or are we multi-dimensional?

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    Quote Originally Posted by unsung View Post
    Isn't the whole thing based on how you switch strategies when the initial approach isn't working?

    Let's say you're an 8 and things aren't working out. You change strategy to something similar to a 6. But does your motivation change?
    I think the point is, how you would characterize your "heart" motivations, "head" motivations, and "gut" motivations, seeing as everyone encapsulates all three, but uses one gear over the others.

    Eh... it gets a bit tedious and makes the process of growth enneagram nourishes too complicated. You become more aware of yourself and clear the fog off the windsheild by recognizing your vices, virtues, and coping strategies. I don't know about you guys, but mine are pretty habitual. Adding in the tritypes would be useless; the wing is significant, but just only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenaphor View Post
    Agreed on the first rhetorical question.

    Isn't it possible to have multiple motivations? Are we all singularly focused or are we multi-dimensional?
    Problem is that contrary to a popular belief, the enneatype is not about motivations. It is about the way you see the world and toward what angle you perceive information, it represents your mode of attention. The 9 enneatypes represent 9 pieces of the whole map of human condition, everybody, as a human being, is confronted to human condition and is potentially able to see the world toward the 9 point of view, and to be multidimensional. Enneagram say that when you are entranced, you are stuck in the attention mode of you enneatype at the point that you lose your ability to consider another way to deal with life and see the world, and lose your ability to be multidimensional.

    So, it's useless to determine what are your "3 dimension" because the enneagram show you what your personality is when you are "uni-dimensional" and because enneagram say that when you leave your trance, you can be multidemensionals, but in 9 ways, not only 3. In comparaison with the original enneagram, the "trifix" theory is actually limitating, and wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Problem is that contrary to a popular belief, the enneatype is not about motivations. It is about the way you see the world and toward what angle you perceive information, it represents your mode of attention. The 9 enneatypes represent 9 pieces of the whole map of human condition, everybody, as a human being, is confronted to human condition and is potentially able to see the world toward the 9 point of view, and to be multidimensional. Enneagram say that when you are entranced, you are stuck in the attention mode of you enneatype at the point that you lose your ability to consider another way to deal with life and see the world, and lose your ability to be multidimensional.
    How about we call them "fixations"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Problem is that contrary to a popular belief, the enneatype is not about motivations. It is about the way you see the world and toward what angle you perceive information, it represents your mode of attention. The 9 enneatypes represent 9 pieces of the whole map of human condition, everybody, as a human being, is confronted to human condition and is potentially able to see the world toward the 9 point of view, and to be multidimensional. Enneagram say that when you are entranced, you are stuck in the attention mode of you enneatype at the point that you lose your ability to consider another way to deal with life and see the world, and lose your ability to be multidimensional.

    So, it's useless to determine what are your "3 dimension" because the enneagram show you what your personality is when you are "uni-dimensional" and because enneagram say that when you leave your trance, you can be multidemensionals, but in 9 ways, not only 3. In comparaison with the original enneagram, the "trifix" theory is actually limitating, and wrong.
    When are we entranced and how do we become multidimensional? Does this also make integration/disintegration useless theory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Problem is that contrary to a popular belief, the enneatype is not about motivations. It is about the way you see the world and toward what angle you perceive information, it represents your mode of attention. The 9 enneatypes represent 9 pieces of the whole map of human condition, everybody, as a human being, is confronted to human condition and is potentially able to see the world toward the 9 point of view, and to be multidimensional. Enneagram say that when you are entranced, you are stuck in the attention mode of you enneatype at the point that you lose your ability to consider another way to deal with life and see the world, and lose your ability to be multidimensional.

    So, it's useless to determine what are your "3 dimension" because the enneagram show you what your personality is when you are "uni-dimensional" and because enneagram say that when you leave your trance, you can be multidemensionals, but in 9 ways, not only 3. In comparaison with the original enneagram, the "trifix" theory is actually limitating, and wrong.
    By your subjective perception, trifix is wrong. This isn't to say that it doesn't work for others. And who's to say that we don't have three dominant "fixations", as defined by Gingko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginkgo View Post
    How about we call them "fixations"?
    Fixations are the way you perceive the word. Simply another way to call it.

    When are we entranced
    You are entranced when you are focused on the attention mode of your type at the point to be unable to act differently.

    [quoteand how do we become multidimensional?[/quote]

    Simply when you make efforts to be open to other dimensions of life. Or when specific situations of life make you experiment the point of view of another type. For example, a breakup or a feelingo of rejection from people can make you feel that a source of happiness have been denied to you, like a 4, confrontation with a teacher with a very square teaching can make you think that there's one good way and one wrong way to do everything, like a 1, a victory in a fight can make you feel that protection and respect are gained when you are powerful, and indentify with that feeling of strength, like a 8. etc.


    Does this also make integration/disintegration useless theory?

    No. It's part of the original model, and it show what point of view we adopt in stress/security situation.


    By your subjective perception, trifix is wrong. This isn't to say that it doesn't work for others. And who's to say that we don't have three dominant "fixations", as defined by Gingko.
    It's basically impossible to have any interesting discussion with you because you have never any arguments to explain why your ideas are better except "you opinion is subjective, everything is subjective, blablabla", which is wrong.
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