[Tritype] Tritype Titles

[Totenkindly]

I find that totally useless, confusing and probably wrong.

Basically, the assumption is that people have a preferred function in each of the triads (heart, head, and gut), so the tritype is the strongest function from each group.

You can determine from that method of determination how valid you think such a theory would be.

 

[rav3n]

I find that totally useless, confusing and probably wrong.

Expand on this.

 

[Speed Gavroche]

Exactly. It's a lot more 3 dimensional than the standard enneagram theory. It always appalled me that 8's were considered brutish village idiots who needed to be conned into becoming productive members of society using the "shining hero" example. Sure, we're guttish but many of us are capable of balancing the brute with our heads, without needing to be considered "heroes" or "magnanimous". The nuances of both descriptives are both condescending to others and to us.

The problem is that you seem to consider enneagram as a behaviorist system, but it is not. An enneatype is a structure through wich you solve information , and you have 1 not 3. Assuming that, you don't need to think that you have three types to embraces the nuances of your personality, one is enough, assuming that enneagram does'nt say that "8s are brutish village idiots who can't balance with their head", probably somme shitty ressources on the internet say that but that has nothing to do with the orginal model.

Plus, each enneatypes have something in common with every others, for example, if you are a 7, you can believe to have 1 in your "trifix" because of the common points between you and the one, or to have 3 because of the common points between you and Type 3 etc, wich makes the determination of tritype virtually impossible and totally based on subjectives impressions.

 

[rav3n]

The problem is that you seem to consider enneagram as a behaviorist system, but it is not. An enneatype is a structure through wich you solve information , and you have 1 not 3. Assuming that, you don't need to think that you have three types to embraces the nuances of your personality, one is enough, assuming that enneagram does'nt say that "8s are brutish village idiots who can't balance with their head", probably somme shitty ressources on the internet say that but that has nothing to do with the orginal model.

Plus, each enneatypes have something in common with every others, for example, if you are a 7, you can believe to have 1 in your "trifix" because of the common points between you and the one, or to have 3 because of the common points between you and Type 3 etc, wich makes the determination of tritype virtually impossible and totally based on subjectives impressions.

I see. So every type shares commonalities with other types but each type must move a particular way to become healthy. If they move in any other way, it's either not possible or a disintegration. What's wrong with this picture?

 

[lunalum]

So, back to titles, what would a 7-3-8 be? Supernova? What if the 3 was a 4?

 

[Speed Gavroche]

I see. So every type shares commonalities with other types but each type must move a particular way to become healthy. If they move in any other way, it's either not possible or a disintegration. What's wrong with this picture?

It can be integration or disintegration, yes, but I did'nt say that you can't move to an otther type. It's just that it is not really a "move" in the typical sense. It's just that we can experience the passion others types. For example, even if you are a 8, you can experiment depression because of the loss of a source of love, like 4s do, or to experiment fear because you envisage a worst case scenario, like 6s do. Enneagram is a map of the human condition, and the passions and mental fixations of each type form differents pieces of that map. That mean that as a human being, you can experiment the passions or mental fixations of another type than the your. Actully, you can experiment every.

But hte thing is that their is one idea, impression, way to solve information that you spontaneously use, especially when yu are entranced. 4s, for example don't just experiment depression, they feel loss of love as the fundamental basis of their life, and the impression that a source of love has been lost and denied because of semthing wrong and lacking in their image is the truth, 6s on the other hand, don't just envisasge worst case scenario and are afraid, they consider negative past experiences, paranoia and doubt as the legitime source of information and hardly consider the best. This is I think the trifix is confusing, wirtually impossible to find and based on subjectives impressions.

 

[rav3n]

It can be integration or disintegration, yes, but I did'nt say that you can't move to an otther type. It's just that it is not really a "move" in the typical sense. It's just that we can experience the passion others types. For example, even if you are a 8, you can experiment depression because of the loss of a source of love, like 4s do, or to experiment fear because you envisage a worst case scenario, like 6s do. Enneagram is a map of the human condition, and the passions and mental fixations of each type form differents pieces of that map. That mean that as a human being, you can experiment the passions or mental fixations of another type than the your. Actully, you can experiment every.

But hte thing is that their is one idea, impression, way to solve information that you spontaneously use, especially when yu are entranced. 4s, for example don't just experiment depression, they feel loss of love as the fundamental basis of their life, and the impression that a source of love has been lost and denied because of semthing wrong and lacking in their image is the truth, 6s on the other hand, don't just envisasge worst case scenario and are afraid, they consider negative past experiences, paranoia and doubt as the legitime source of information and hardly consider the best. This is I think the trifix is confusing, wirtually impossible to find and based on subjectives impressions.

The move towards integration or disintegration is core to enneagram theory. It isn't just a map of the human condition of each type. It includes what the architects consider to be a map of how each type fits into their perceptions of a well functioning society. This means there will need to be a standarisation of each type and how that type must move in order to fit into their model of a well-functioning society.

The above fails in that the human condition can't be categorised into solely individuals who fit into the 9 types. Maybe some fit into each mould. But there are many who will bridge types, whereby their bridging will require an amended version of how they choose to self-actualise to optimum health levels. Now how this fits into the enneagram model of a well-functioning society, I could honestly care less.

 

[Viridian]

So, back to titles, what would a 7-3-8 be? Supernova? What if the 3 was a 4?

7-4-8: The Rocker?

 

[lunalum]

^I approve

 

[Elfboy]

7-4-8: The Rocker?

rock is much more cp 6 than it is 7 or 8. I would say 6-9-4 would be the rocker

 

[Viridian]

rock is much more cp 6 than it is 7 or 8. I would say 6-9-4 would be the rocker

Okey dokey! Lessee then...

7-4-8: The Phoenix?

 

[Elfboy]

Okey dokey! Lessee then...

7-4-8: The Phoenix?

ooo, I like this one
also I would call 7-4-8 The Diva

 

[Glycerine]

Do me!!!!! 5-9-3.

 

[The_World_As_Will]

594 was already pitched, but I'd like to see elfboy or others thoughts on it. so 594, Do me

 

[Glycerine]

594 was already pitched, but I'd like to see elfboy or others thoughts on it. so 594, Do me

http://personalitycafe.com/type-5-forum-investigator/9931-type-5-tritypes.html
Interesting.

 

[The_World_As_Will]

http://personalitycafe.com/type-5-forum-investigator/9931-type-5-tritypes.html
Interesting.

ah yes, I am familiar with that description, wish it could be expanded upon though, I also find i'm at odds with the 'typical subtypes variants' list, 594= sx/sp, and i'm sx/so hmm interesting indeed. and yeah you seem Pitseleh like a 593 , 59 solidarity ftw

 

[Amargith]

I can see this, do you think the 7 makes them more flighty? with the 9 agreeable quality to it?, I can totally see that.

I'd say the 4's artistry is found it the beautiful colours of its feathers, the 9 in its peaceful zen-like state as it drinks nectar and stays in place and the 7 in its flitting about from flower to flower and high energy generated by its wings.

The Butterfly would work for similar reasons I feel and even add the dimension of the 4's transcendence with the whole cocoon to butterfly thing.

Fluffy Kitten works as well, I'd say. Self-discovery and awareness of self while discovering who you are in life(4), zen-like (9) and agreeable with everyone when purring while being petted and happily chasing toys and bugs to enjoy life (7)


I can keep going

 

[The_World_As_Will]

I'd say the 4's artistry is found it the beautiful colours of its feathers, the 9 in its peaceful zen-like state as it drinks nectar and stays in place and the 7 in its flitting about from flower to flower and high energy generated by its wings.

The Butterfly would work for similar reasons I feel and even add the dimension of the 4's transcendence with the whole cocoon to butterfly thing.

Fluffy Kitten works as well, I'd say. Self-discovery and awareness of self while discovering who you are in life(4), zen-like (9) and agreeable with everyone when purring while being petted and happily chasing toys and bugs to enjoy life (7)


I can keep going

By all means, keep going I certainly don't mind, you described it really well, I can relate to the 9 and 4's bits on discover and peace of mind. Do you think being an sx/so (and I am one as well, curious to see how it is for other sx/so's) that the need for self-discovery and zen like states are intensified?

 

[lunalum]

7-4-8: The Phoenix?

also I would call 7-4-8 The Diva

I thought the rocker was cooler maybe 7-3-8 can still have that one. Something is a little off with Phoenix or Diva, but they'll work for now....

 

[Viridian]

"The Diva" sounds a bit more like 4-7-8 or 3-7-8, I think... A bigger emphasis on... appearing, y'know?

5-9-3: The Shaman? Or is that more like 5-3-9?

5-9-4: The Seeker?