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    When sober, I'm definitely a 6w5. However, as my blood-alcohol content goes up, the more I start getting w7 tendencies. I don't drink often, but most people, especially close friends, tell me that I'm a lot more relaxed, outgoing, and even goofier than normal after I've had a few glasses of good whiskey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkRoad View Post
    I admit that the "fundamentally insecure" and "healthy" things seem contradictory, or seem to imply that a 6 could never be "healthy." It's weird though. Quite honestly, I do feel that I am fundamentally insecure. But I also feel - as much as I am aware of areas where I'm kinda screwed up - that I am fundamentally healthy. I feel both those things about myself, and I don't feel that they contradict each other.
    i think the enneagram institute describes healthy 6 as a troubleshooter... someone who can see issues as they arise and deal with them accordingly. like, moving from insecurity into hyperawareness... to move from feeling the need to protect themself to being confident in the self-knowledge that they can protect when they need to, but do not always have to, to be okay. i mean, life is insecure, really. it changes all the time. so you can be in a state of insecurity simply in line with life. and you could still be healthy... it'd just be when the insecurity prevents you from doing the things you want to do and living the kind of life you want to live that it would be an unhealthy state.

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    There's actually a graphic with these types, on an older thread.

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    Here's an interesting study...
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    Correlation Data Between MBTI and Enneagram Typologies by Tom Flautt and John Richards
    A research study was undertaken using members of the APT. This group was chosen because it was thought they had a good understanding of their own MBTI type. An instrument for sorting Enneatypes developed by John Richards was sent to over 1500 people in response to our article in the Bulletin of Psychological Type. The results here represent responses from 964 people. The correlation of MBTI and Enneagram types was measured using a SRTT program developed by CAPT. This program calculates selection ratios (I) and identifies those which are statistically significant. A summary of the correlation data is presented below. [source: breakoutofthebox.com]

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    ENNEAGRAM		# in 	Associated MBTI Types (I) 	Associated Preferences &
    TYPE		Group	I > 1 and p £ .05 		Temperaments
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    1-Perfectionist	125	ISTJ(3.2), ESTJ(2.6)	I, S, T, J, SJ
    
    2-Helper		252	ESFJ(2.8), ENFJ(2.7), 
    			ISFP(1.8), ESFP(1.8), 
    			ENFP(1.6), ISFJ(1.5)	E, F
    
    3-Performer	42	ENTJ (3.2), ENTP (3.2)	E, T, NT
    
    4-Individualist	57	INFP(5.1), INFJ(2.9)	I, N, F, P, NF
    
    5-Thinker		152	INTP(4.3), INTJ(3.7), 
    			ISTP(3.5), ISTJ(1.8) 	I, N, T, NT
    
    
    6-Loyalist	19	ISFJ(6.1), ISTJ(1.8) 	I, S, J, SJ
    
    7-Enthusiast	53	ESTP(4.6), ENTP(4.6), 
    			ENFP(3.1), ESFP(2.8)	E, N, P
    
    8-Leader		62	ESTJ(5.5), ENTJ(4.1)	E, T, J
    
    9-Mediator	33	ISFP(9.1), INFP(3.8)	I, F, P, SP
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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    i think the enneagram institute describes healthy 6 as a troubleshooter... someone who can see issues as they arise and deal with them accordingly. like, moving from insecurity into hyperawareness... to move from feeling the need to protect themself to being confident in the self-knowledge that they can protect when they need to, but do not always have to, to be okay. i mean, life is insecure, really. it changes all the time. so you can be in a state of insecurity simply in line with life. and you could still be healthy... it'd just be when the insecurity prevents you from doing the things you want to do and living the kind of life you want to live that it would be an unhealthy state.
    Yeah! That makes sense. I mean, insecurity does get in my way sometimes. I know it does. But I'm aware of it, I'm aware of what I need to work on for the most part, I think. So I don't see it as the kind of thing that makes me fundamentally unhealthy...after all, everyone has insecurities...
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    Judging from combined polls on typologycentral and personalitycafe:

    ISTJ: 1 & 5 > 6
    ISTP: 5
    ENTP: 7
    INTJ: 5
    INTP: 5
    ENFJ: 2
    ENFP: 2 & 4 & 9
    INFJ: 4 > 1
    INFP: 4 > 9 > 5 > 6 & 2

    Judging from combined surveys of two studies:

    ESTJ: 8 > 1 & 3
    ESFJ: 2 > 3 & 6
    ISTJ: 1 > 5
    ISFJ: 1 > 2 & 9 > 3 & 6

    ESTP: 7 > 3
    ESFP: 7 > 2
    ISTP: 9 > 5
    ISFP: 9 > 2

    ENTJ: 8 > 1 & 3
    ENTP: 3 & 8
    INTJ: 5 > 1
    INTP: 5 > 6

    ENFJ: 2 > 1 & 3
    ENFP: 7 > 2
    INFJ: 4 > 1
    INFP: 9 > 4

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    Final update! I get the following list from comparing all the polls on typologycentral and personalitycafe to the empirical and graph-result studies on this site: http://webspace.webring.com/people/c...e/typecorr.htm No amount of arguing will convince me that the types or type order is different unless you show me polls and studies from MORE sites.

    ESTJ: 8 > 1 & 3
    ESFJ: 2 > 3 & 6
    ISTJ: 1 > 5 > 6
    ISFJ: 1 & 2 & 3 & 6 & 9

    ESTP: 7 > 3
    ESFP: 7 > 2
    ISTP: 5 > 7 & 9
    ISFP: 2 & 4 & 9

    ENTJ: 8 > 1 & 3 & 6
    ENTP: 7 > 3 > 8
    INTJ: 5 > 1 > 8
    INTP: 5 > 9 > 6

    ENFJ: 2 > 3 > 1
    ENFP: 7 > 2 > 4
    INFJ: 4 > 1 > 5
    INFP: 4 > 9 > 5

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