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    The object is the same.

    You have two hands.
    Ten fingers.
    Why the Sumerians used the 6, Xander?
    That is why.
    And it has nothing to do with the days of the year.

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    I'm sorry but I know nothing of Sumerians... I'm younger than you (couldn't resist )

    Anyway, using 8 you're saying the object changes, otherwise you'd use four. If you did 4x4x2... isn't the 2 unnecessary? Wouldn't the 2 merely be the two sides of exactly the same thing? Do we need to figure for how the coin lands or merely the presence of the coin?
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    I'm sorry but I know nothing of Sumerians... I'm younger than you (couldn't resist )

    Anyway, using 8 you're saying the object changes, otherwise you'd use four. If you did 4x4x2... isn't the 2 unnecessary? Wouldn't the 2 merely be the two sides of exactly the same thing? Do we need to figure for how the coin lands or merely the presence of the coin?
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    Do not worry. It is human not to resist.

    We do not see how the coin lands unless we have the 2.
    Repetitive.
    I know.
    Not redundant.

    Analogy.

    (T)1 = 10
    A twohand.

    90 - 09 = 90 - 09

    91 - 19 = 80 - 08

    92 - 29 = (T)36 = 70 - 7 etc

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    99 - 99 = 0 - 0 = 0

    What comes around goes around.

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    I see we are back in the original compound.
    9 X 4




    4 = 2 + 2

    92 - 29 = (T)36

    6 - 3 = 3

    92 + 3 = 95

    29 + (T)3 = (T)95

    95 - 59 = 36 = (T)63

    check

    3 = 7 - 4

    (T)36 = 7 X 9

    36 = 4 X 9

    3 = (T)79 - (T)49

    (T)3 = 79 - 49

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    7 + 2 = 9 X 1 = 1 X 9

    72 = ((T)36 + (9 X 1 = 1 X 9)) = 91 - 19

    7 - 2 = 5

    91 + 5 = 96

    19 + (T)5 = 69

    96 - 69 = (T)72 = 27

    check

    72 = 8 X 9

    27 = 3 X 9

    5 = 8 - 3 = (T)89 - (T)39

    (T)5 = 89 - 39

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    As always my friend, I am left thinking that my glasses are insufficient to allow me to see the patterns as readily as you. I am never certain of their validity but if I do not see them daily then who am I to quibble?
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    Glad to see you back, Xander!

    You do see them daily. One of the early philosophers said about the nature of time: It is the inevitable outcome of distance.
    Physics does not object.

    Clock is the measure of time. Only in the loci.

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    0 X 9 = 9 X 0 ?
    Not in the loci.

    (T)1 = 10

    Apropos 9

    8 6 4 2 0 2 4 6 8

    Apropos (T)1

    0 8 14 18 20 20 18 14 8 0

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    0 X 9 = 99 - (9 X 9) - (9 + 9)

    9 X 0 = 0 - (0 X 0) - (0 + 0)

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    Thank you, all. A good job.
    We have found what we set out to find.

    Does Enneagram fit in the overall typology?
    It does.
    Does it fit in the clock?
    It does.
    Does it fit in the MBTI?
    It does.
    Is Enneagram valid?
    It is.

    Would it be better if the nine silent numbers were included?
    They are included.

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