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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    my guesses are as follows:
    Martin Luther King: 8w9
    Alex Jones: 8w9
    John Brown: 8w7
    Susan B Anthony: 1w9
    Richard Wagner: 8w7
    Elizabeth, Queen of England: 8w9
    Franco Corelli: 8w9
    George Washington: 8w7
    David, King Israel: 8w7

    Jules Winfield: 8w9
    Light Yagami: 8w9
    Pharaoh/Yami Yugi: 8w9
    Mithos Yggdrasil: 8w9
    Gandalf The Grey: 8w9
    Hajime Saito: 1w9
    Shogo Amakusa: 8w9
    Patrick Bateman: 1w9
    Martin Luther King was a 8w9 Sx/So, but Light and the Queen Elisabeth are 1. Don't know for the other. 8s express their anger quicly and are proud of it while 1s deny it and turn it into ressentment and self internal critic, until they lash out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    What are you smoking!? Jules Winnifield is a glaringly, painfully obvious 7w8.
    Jules Winfield is WAY too intense to be a 7. this description from eneagraminstitute pretty well describes the differences between 7s and 8s

    Sevens and Eights are both aggressive types (PT, 433-36) and can resemble each other in certain respects. Both are powerful personalities who are able to go after what they want in life, but what they want, and how they attempt to get it, are different.

    Sevens are primarily interested in variety–they want to sample as many different experiences as possible and become practical in as much as their practicality gives them the means to pursue the experiences they want to try.

    Eights, by contrast, are more interested in intensity–they care less about variety than about having intense experiences that they enjoy. Eights are also interested in power, both as a way to maintain their independence and as a way of asserting their dominance in the environment. Sevens are not particularly interested in having power, seeing the work necessary to maintain it as possibly infringing on their freedom.

    Eights are an Instinctive type, and as such, make decisions from their "gut" instincts. They prefer dealing with practical matters, and although emotionally volatile at times, generally remain grounded and down to earth. Sevens are Thinking types, and can have brilliant, quick minds. At the same time, Sevens can get ahead of themselves with their plans, schemes, and interests: they can have trouble staying grounded and on track with their projects. Sevens see themselves as idealistic optimists, while Eights see themselves as hard-nosed realists. Compare Sevens Mike Myers and Goldie Hawn with Eights Danny DeVito and Roseanne Barr.

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    Jules doesn't seem to have any interest in power or control. He just likes messing with people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    I found this description:



    Does that sound right?
    actually, I related much more to the 1 side of this comparison. I'm confused now perhaps this describes average 8s vs 1s? even then, I should relate to the 8 side at least a little bit. do people really view 8s as this hostile and animalistic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    Jules doesn't seem to have any interest in power or control. He just likes messing with people.
    I think he's 8 for a number of reasons
    - he's way more intense and focused than a 7.
    - his revolation at the ending scene is the archtypical epiphony of an 8 integrating to it's growth of 2, so much so that I think the writers knew about the enneagram and did this intentionally
    - he gets defensive with John Travolta's character
    - he's aggressive as hell and proud of it
    - he's incredibly commanding
    - 7s are relaxed and go with the flow, 8s go against the flow or make it themselves

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    The integration into 2 argument is good. 7 as go-with-the-flow... ehh, not so much. 7w8s seem to enjoy stirring shit up for lulz. If he were 8 though he'd be 8w7... he is in no way 9-like. An 8w9 would be more Marcellus Wallace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    actually, I related much more to the 1 side of this comparison. I'm confused now perhaps this describes average 8s vs 1s? even then, I should relate to the 8 side at least a little bit. do people really view 8s as this hostile and animalistic?
    I did try to find a description that didn't boil down to "Ones are moral, Eights are selfish pricks". I guess I failed...

    Yeah, there's a lot of Enneagram stereotypes out there. I do stand by my assertion that Eights are more likely to be averse to being controlled in general. Ones rebel against immoral or inefficient authorities, Sixes against untrustworthy ones. Eights are, I think, more likely to just keep them at arms' length until they say, "Yeah, I respect you". I also think Ones and Sixes are, for this very reason, more compliant, while Eights charge passionately to achieve their objectives, which may be good, bad or anything in between.

    I don't believe in personality systems that makes some types of people the "bad guys" by default. I mean, MLK was an Eight! How do those stereotypes last so long?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    The integration into 2 argument is good. 7 as go-with-the-flow... ehh, not so much. 7w8s seem to enjoy stirring shit up for lulz. If he were 8 though he'd be 8w7... he is in no way 9-like. An 8w9 would be more Marcellus Wallace.
    agreed, 8w7 works best

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    I did try to find a description that didn't boil down to "Ones are moral, Eights are selfish pricks". I guess I failed...

    Yeah, there's a lot of Enneagram stereotypes out there. I do stand by my assertion that Eights are more likely to be averse to being controlled in general. Ones rebel against immoral or inefficient authorities, Sixes against untrustworthy ones. Eights are, I think, more likely to just keep them at arms' length until they say, "Yeah, I respect you". I also think Ones and Sixes are, for this very reason, more compliant, while Eights charge passionately to achieve their objectives, which may be good, bad or anything in between.
    I don't believe in personality systems that makes some types of people the "bad guys" by default. I mean, MLK was an Eight! How do those stereotypes last so long?
    thankyou, very insightful

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    thankyou, very insightful
    Glad to help!

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