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    well, just read the thread on 4s and family issues, so i thought i'd throw these info nuggets in for consideration:

    family --

    have always had a pretty good relationship with both parents. was kind of an ass during my teenage years, and did the usual rebellion thing. had lots of yelling matches with dad, my sledgehammer Te vs his masterful Ti. skipped class a bit because i didn't like doing my work and then would be avoidant, but still managed to graduate with honors. mom and i are close, dad and i bond over random intellectual crap, and my brother and i share quirky Ne humor. if anything, i'm too attached to my family. they frustrate me sometimes and i try to help them change for the better (typical NFP), and that annoys them. i can't really blame them for that, lol.

    friends --

    through elementary and middle i usually had one or two close friends who i hung out with a lot (the person/people would usually change every year or two. i was a serial best friend, lol.) what else... i was on the dance team for a while with the popular kids in middle school. a lot of them were assholes and not worth the trouble i put myself through, but getting to be a part of the dance team was fun. i had low self-confidence in high school (mostly thanks to an eating disorder developed in middle school) but a really good group of nerdy friends (we were almost all AP students, so we related), and i still keep up with a few of them. in college i got better self-confidence and tended to hang out with people from student government and other organizations, some of whom are now very very good friends. i tend towards overachievers, but not the top top overachievers, the ones that are still fun - the ones who are a little bit of trouble but totally get away with it. i also might be the one who inspires trouble sometimes. i was also always that kid who tended to have a couple friends from lots of different groups, even though those people didn't always get along with each other. that can make for some really awkward situations, lol. i'm fast to make acquaintance-friends but slow to develop good friends.

    relationships --

    despite the supposed ENFP tendency to flirt and run, i tend to have long, hard crushes. most of my relationships (i have not had many) have been fairly long, comfortable things that have had a few fiery arguments in between but ended peacefully. i tend to linger after others even when the possibility is really not a possibility anymore.

    honestly i'm kind of socially boring.

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    I rest my case.

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    i feel like i came off more 3 than i am... or maybe i'm just realizing that i'm more 3 than i thought i was.

    i'm more 3 than 4, in any case.

    can i just be a 7w3w4?

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    oh, and here's my dream to-do list, cause that was popular in another thread.

    1. do good in the world
    2. via a high-paid prestigious job that i rock at and enjoy and only have to do a few days a week
    3. travel as much as possible - uae, bali, sri lanka, slovenia, japan, morocco, etc...
    4. live on the beach, have an awesome house that looks like a island treehouse resort
    5. have horses
    6. sail around the world in a giant sailboat (but i'll skip crossing the oceans, i just want to bounce port-to-port)
    7. play violin with an orchestra, or even better, sing solo, or with a little band
    8. have a really fun, amazing car, drive it on a racetrack
    9. get comfortable enough with myself and my body that i can go out one day and not feel totally self-conscious (even better if i look smoking hot)
    10. motorcycle.
    11. become a minister, hang out with the dalai lama
    12. tinker with the LHC, win nobel prize
    13. be a J instead of a P

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    I suspect that, ENFPs (and probably ENTPs too), are less likely to relate to one type of the Enneagram. I find ENFP's in particular unsure of their type, usually torn between: 7w6, 4w3, 3w4. I myself find it hard to pin ENFPs down to one E-type. My thinking is: The Enneagram is basically just 9 styles of coping mechanisms. The idea is that most of us often fall back on the same style too much. We often do this because it plays to our strengths and feels comfortable, but it can also get us stuck in a rut and perpetuate unhealthy loops.Ne-doms may be less likely to relate to just one coping mechanism, because Ne is fluid and adaptable. Ne-doms supposedly have the most coping skills of any type:

    Quote Originally Posted by discoveryourpersonality.com
    ENFP:

    Ranked 1st of all 16 types in using social and emotional coping resources and 2nd in using cognitive resources.

    ENTP:

    With ENFPs, had highest mean level of coping resources.
    I couldn't find the link to where it is at the site, but it was what was cited on the personalitycafe threads:

    http://personalitycafe.com/entp-arti...tatistics.html

    http://personalitycafe.com/enfp-arti...tatistics.html


    I intend to research this idea a bit more to see if it has any legs.

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    ^ well that would make a lot of sense actually.

    it seems like many ENTPs would be caught between 7, 5, and 3, and many ENFPs between 7, 4, and 3.
    though i have also seen ENTP 8s.

    i guess one of the aspects is that Ne adapts a lot situationally. it's weird to think of narrowing yourself down to one category when you are constantly changing to suit environments. Se does this too but in a more grounded sense... for us it's kind of in the realm of conceptualizations.

    in any case i am wearing my 3 / INTJ professional facade today. little affection for gooey-style Fi at the moment.

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    I am
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    6 most of the times when I'm default
    4 when I relatively stressed
    3 when I am most stressed

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    This will be my last attempt to explain

    You have to be careful about 3. Threes are the types that question their type the most; because profiles describe people who cant have anything lower than PhD before 23, and who are incredibly narcissistic, and because 3-ish attitude is so well accepted that you think "oh, the fact that i am image conscious doesnt prove anything, everybody is". Yes, everybody is because of culture, not ever Hollywood celeb is a Three, but many many are, that is what they ask for you.
    Also a thing to be careful is that if you are a 3, YOU will relate to ALL OTHER TYPES IF you wish to relate. If you think it'd LOOK cool to be a 7, you will take over some 7's characteristics, if you think 5s are so wise you will take over 5, it happens so unconsciously that most 3s spend their whole lives living in roles and not avare of it. It's typical 3.
    What I am saying here is what King-of-Despair realized in his own example while he was posting here, you can browse his posts, he was between 7,5,9,7,5,3,7 switching back and forth and I told him immediately he is a 3, because he vibes this way, months later he said he thought he is a 7 because he values some of seven's attitude so tried to take over that, but realized he is only 3, not a mix.
    And if someone even remotely relates to taking over something as their own identity - he is very likely a Three.

    All people are to a degree image conscious and take over roles because that's requiered in world, you have you business self, your private self, but 3s do it much more and much better, and they cant not do it (unless they are no longer fixated).

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    Quote Originally Posted by guesswho View Post
    I am
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    6 most of the times when I'm default
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    3 when I am most stressed
    you sound like a 6w7, and probably a counterphobic 6. your stress would be 3. at your healthiest, you grow to 9 which allows you to relax and find peace, and your 7 wing has more room to come out and be crazy and fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    well, just read the thread on 4s and family issues, so i thought i'd throw these info nuggets in for consideration:

    family --

    have always had a pretty good relationship with both parents. was kind of an ass during my teenage years, and did the usual rebellion thing. had lots of yelling matches with dad, my sledgehammer Te vs his masterful Ti. skipped class a bit because i didn't like doing my work and then would be avoidant, but still managed to graduate with honors. mom and i are close, dad and i bond over random intellectual crap, and my brother and i share quirky Ne humor. if anything, i'm too attached to my family. they frustrate me sometimes and i try to help them change for the better (typical NFP), and that annoys them. i can't really blame them for that, lol.

    friends --

    through elementary and middle i usually had one or two close friends who i hung out with a lot (the person/people would usually change every year or two. i was a serial best friend, lol.) what else... i was on the dance team for a while with the popular kids in middle school. a lot of them were assholes and not worth the trouble i put myself through, but getting to be a part of the dance team was fun. i had low self-confidence in high school (mostly thanks to an eating disorder developed in middle school) but a really good group of nerdy friends (we were almost all AP students, so we related), and i still keep up with a few of them. in college i got better self-confidence and tended to hang out with people from student government and other organizations, some of whom are now very very good friends. i tend towards overachievers, but not the top top overachievers, the ones that are still fun - the ones who are a little bit of trouble but totally get away with it. i also might be the one who inspires trouble sometimes. i was also always that kid who tended to have a couple friends from lots of different groups, even though those people didn't always get along with each other. that can make for some really awkward situations, lol. i'm fast to make acquaintance-friends but slow to develop good friends.

    relationships --

    despite the supposed ENFP tendency to flirt and run, i tend to have long, hard crushes. most of my relationships (i have not had many) have been fairly long, comfortable things that have had a few fiery arguments in between but ended peacefully. i tend to linger after others even when the possibility is really not a possibility anymore.

    honestly i'm kind of socially boring.
    The more I read you, the more I think 6w7 for you Skylight. I thought about the 7w6 option but what you say here relate very much to Type 6, plus the wing 7 who make you more extrovert, upbeat, energetic and pleasure oteiented. That can explain a lot of your confusions.

    Type 6 is connected to 3 under stress because thay fear to appear weak or to fail and be atacked by authorities and their social environement. In security, they are also connected to 3 because tehy want to be achiever and admired for this, they are optimistic and want to accomplish great thing, this is especially true for 6s with the 7 wing. At the same time, 6s are often very creatives and intuitives, and can also be easily be moody and dispressed because they are focused on the negative side of the situations and frequently live intense emotions.Especially, 6w7s are also versatile, genteel and diva, and are mistyped frequently as 4w3. 3w4, 4w3, 6w7 and 7w6 are the four divas of the enneagram, and probably the four most currents types among ENFPs. 6w7s are 3ish, 4ish, 7ish, and I think this is your type.

    Maybe I'm wrong, but do you relate to that description?

    6w7 - Seeking Security and Stimulation

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    Sixes with a 7 wing are generally outgoing and may appear more overtly nervous. More plainly want to be liked and will pursue others in contrast to 5 wing who pulls in. Can be charming, sociable, ingratiating. Have a faster tempo, stronger connection to 3. Often self-preservation subtypes, characterized by a personal warmth. Can have a cheerful, forward-looking drive and be disarmingly funny. Self-effacing, gracious and curious. When more entranced, may be self-contradicting and seem as if they want two things at once. Sometimes test others overtly, drive you crazy with mixed messages. It may be hard to follow what they're saying. When threatened, one defense is to become impossible to please. When counterphobic, they tend to be accusative. Some get caught up in big plans that they hope will result in material security. Also can be insecure, irritable, petty, irrational, chaotic. Subject to mood swings, inferiority complexes, runaway fears. May have hair-trigger flare-ups of paranoia. Falsely accuse others and then seem not to realize it. Other times they plead to be taken care of. Sometimes defensively conservative in their lifestyle. Some struggle with appetite.
    Then assuming that your instinctual variant is So/Sx/Sp, your description should be:

    Social 6 - Seeking Acceptance/Belonging/Inclusion/Status

    •Udit Patel "Generating Support (Ichazo's "Duty")"

    Social Sixes look for security in the social sphere—that is, through their affiliations with different people and organizations. They are warm, engaging, and humorous, trying to send out the message that they are approachable and safe. They like to enlist people, getting others involved in projects or activities they see as worthwhile. Social Sixes frequently volunteer to work in groups and committees. They do not necessarily enjoy doing this, but they see it is necessary and so are willing to give their time and energy. They want to be regarded as regular guys or gals and may have difficulty taking stands that would be unpopular in their peer groups. They seek consensus before moving ahead with their agendas and they want to feel that others are "with them," backing them up. Although Social Sixes like being involved, they often become nervous about holding positions of responsibility because they are afraid that they will have to make decisions that others will not like, thus losing their support. When more insecure, their suspiciousness may lead them to form in-groups and out-groups in the workplace or in other social or societal areas.


    •LifeExplore

    Social Sixes tend to be dutiful and especially dependent upon authority. More often phobic than counterphobic. Often dedicated to a cause. When acting alone they will still refer to others in their mind for safety and agreement. May want to see your opinion first before they will offer their own. Could change their mind to agree with you. Often align with a group or a cause and will follow the rules loyally, trying to please the boss. "Company men." Focus on a social or work context and try to be ideal within it. Could persecute others in the name of their group's ideals. May imagine they can't live without the group's support: "If I don't play by the rules I'll be out on the street selling pencils." Later there's inevitable disillusionment. Then Six starts grumbling that they are not appreciated. Could go passive/aggressive, resent a boss they had romanticized. Connection to 9 is stronger with this subtype.
    Then:

    Sexual 6 - Seeking Intimacy/Intensity

    •Udit Patel "Feisty Vulnerability (Ichazo's "Strength and Beauty")"

    Sexual Sixes get their sense of security primarily from their emotional bond with a significant other. But they also have many doubts, both about their own ability to have a suitable mate and about the mate's ability or willingness to really be there for them. Sexual Sixes often manifest a tension between their gender roles: they are both masculine and feminine, "macho" and coquettish. Moreover, Sexual Six women have a tough, tomboy side to them but still come across as feminine. Similarly, the men of this Variant display a sensitivity and vulnerability while being essentially masculine. Sexual Sixes also tend to be emotionally intense, like Eights and Fours. Part of this comes from anxiety about their ability to keep a strong, capable partner. Thus, Sexual Sixes try to cultivate their masculine or feminine attributes in order to find a good partner and, later, to remain appealing to this person. Often, they feel most comfortable relating to members of the opposite sex and may feel competitive with the same sex. They also tend to test their significant others to see if they are strong enough and to make sure that they are really committed to the relationship. When more stressed, Sexual Sixes can be emotionally volatile, with their feelings about people changing strongly and suddenly. They fall into suspiciousness about their partner and can be quite jealous, while at the same time feeling a strong need to "prove" their desirability.


    •LifeExplore

    Sixes with this subtype tend to act strong or seductive when insecure. They are much more likely to be counterphobic, especially the men. May seem like Eights, take risks, talk tough. Act powerful and in control at the times when they feel most frightened. Worry about looking weak, having their fears show. May act arrogant but aren't really. Some study martial arts or seek a way of life that makes them strong. Beauty is another focus; trying to seem attractive so as to contain fear, get approval, and distract others. May consciously hide behind a seductive mask. Unlike Threes, Sixes know they are hiding. Can act cool and patrician or be flirty. Some have a focus on aesthetics. This subtype often has a stronger connection to the vanity of 3.
    Then:

    Self-Preservation 6 - Seeking Saftey/Comfort

    •Udit Patel "Responsibility (Ichazo's "Affection")"

    Self-Preservation Sixes find their security through safeguarding resources—money, food, property, shelter, and so forth—and tend to chronically worry about these things. ("Have the bills been paid?" "Have the car's brakes been checked recently?" "Do we have enough insurance?") They care a great deal about safety and thrift. Indeed, Self-Pres Sixes feel most secure when they are responsible for financial matters, and believe that their effective running of these affairs is something they can contribute. When they are less secure, however, they do not trust others to be responsible. They need to be constantly informed, if not entirely in control, of practical matters that affect them. Self-Pres Sixes can be funny and friendly and want to be involved and engaged, but they have difficulty relaxing, especially around unfamiliar others. They are more introverted and more likely to be loners than the other Sixes. When more stressed, they may stay in punishing situations longer than they should (bad jobs, bad marriages) or become concerned with having control of resources, like a less healthy Eight.


    •LifeExplore

    Self-preservation Sixes often display a personal warmth that is meant to defang the potential hostility of others. If they sense aggression or disapproval in the environment, they may counterphobically zero in on it. Use humor, charm, self-depreciation to make friends out of possible enemies. Can flatter like Twos, play themselves down, work to maintain other people's affection. Act vulnerable, invite rescue. Ingratiating, but more nervously dependent than other Six subtypes. Also less in touch with their own hostility. Their home environment is sometimes important. May feel like their house is a fortress against the outside world's dangers. Worry about their ability to survive; have scary "worst-that-can-happen" fantasies.
    I am
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    6 most of the times when I'm default
    4 when I relatively stressed
    3 when I am most stressed
    Every people have ONE type. To be unable to identify the your prove just that you don't understand that model.
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