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    Tier 1 Member LunaLuminosity's Avatar
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    I think I am evenly split between enneagram 4 and 5, so I'll list both.

    4- a combination of levels 3 and 6

    Level 3: Highly personal, individualistic, "true to self." Self-revealing, emotionally honest, humane. Ironic view of self and life: can be serious and funny, vulnerable and emotionally strong.

    Level 6: Gradually think that they are different from others, and feel that they are exempt from living as everyone else does. They become melancholy dreamers, disdainful, decadent, and sensual, living in a fantasy world. Self-pity and envy of others leads to self-indulgence, and to becoming increasingly impractical, unproductive, effete, and precious.


    5- a combination of levels 4 and 5

    Level 4: Begin conceptualizing and fine-tuning everything before acting—working things out in their minds: model building, preparing, practicing, and gathering more resources. Studious, acquiring technique. Become specialized, and often "intellectual," often challenging accepted ways of doing things.

    Level 5: Increasingly detached as they become involved with complicated ideas or imaginary worlds. Become preoccupied with their visions and interpretations rather than reality. Are fascinated by off-beat, esoteric subjects, even those involving dark and disturbing elements. Detached from the practical world, a "disembodied mind," although high-strung and intense.

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    I'd say I'm somewhere between level 3 and 4 for type 9.

    Level 3 Fear: Of conflicts (internal and external)
    Level 4 Fear: Of any significant changes/ disruptions in their world

    I've been trying to force some changes that I know needs to be done. At the same time, I'm a bit afraid of what these changes would do, yet I've been pushing myself to get it done.

    In a way, these same changes are also there to fix some "issues" for myself and for others. But I'm afraid these fixes would create disruptions elsewhere.

    Sort of like trying to keep the scale as balanced as possible.

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    I can identify partially with levels 2 to 6 and 8. I'm having trouble seeing the difference between them besides the basic "we say you are more healthy".
    Ne > Ti > Si >> Te > Se >> Fe > Fi > Ni
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    I'm a 4w5 typically at level four but regress into level five occasionally:

    Level 4: Take an artistic, romantic orientation to life, creating a beautiful, aesthetic environment to cultivate and prolong personal feelings. Heighten reality through fantasy, passionate feelings, and the imagination.

    Level 5: To stay in touch with feelings, they interiorize everything, taking everything personally, but become self-absorbed and introverted, moody and hypersensitive, shy and self-conscious, unable to be spontaneous or to "get out of themselves." Stay withdrawn to protect their self-image and to buy time to sort out feelings.
    I have lived a sustained period of several months as high as level 2, but also remember the dreaded high school years where I existed at level 7-8 and generally was a horrible person to be around
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    I've dreamt in my life dreams that have stayed with me ever after, and changed my ideas;
    they've gone through and through me, like wine through water, and altered the colour of my mind.

    - Emily Bronte

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    Type Four—More Depth by Level

    Healthy Levels

    Level 1 (At Their Best): Profoundly creative, expressing the personal and the universal, possibly in a work of art. Inspired, self-renewing and regenerating: able to transform all their experiences into something valuable: self-creative.

    Level 2: Self-aware, introspective, on the "search for self," aware of feelings and inner impulses. Sensitive and intuitive both to self and others: gentle, tactful, compassionate.

    Level 3: Highly personal, individualistic, "true to self." Self-revealing, emotionally honest, humane. Ironic view of self and life: can be serious and funny, vulnerable and emotionally strong.

    Average Levels

    Level 4: Take an artistic, romantic orientation to life, creating a beautiful, aesthetic environment to cultivate and prolong personal feelings. Heighten reality through fantasy, passionate feelings, and the imagination.

    Level 5: To stay in touch with feelings, they interiorize everything, taking everything personally, but become self-absorbed and introverted, moody and hypersensitive, shy and self-conscious, unable to be spontaneous or to "get out of themselves." Stay withdrawn to protect their self-image and to buy time to sort out feelings.

    Level 6: Gradually think that they are different from others, and feel that they are exempt from living as everyone else does. They become melancholy dreamers, disdainful, decadent, and sensual, living in a fantasy world. Self-pity and envy of others leads to self-indulgence, and to becoming increasingly impractical, unproductive, effete, and precious.

    Unhealthy Levels

    Level 7: When dreams fail, become self-inhibiting and angry at self, depressed and alienated from self and others, blocked and emotionally paralyzed. Ashamed of self, fatigued and unable to function.

    Level 8: Tormented by delusional self-contempt, self-reproaches, self-hatred, and morbid thoughts: everything is a source of torment. Blaming others, they drive away anyone who tries to help them.

    Level 9: Despairing, feel hopeless and become self-destructive, possibly abusing alcohol or drugs to escape. In the extreme: emotional breakdown or suicide is likely. Generally corresponds to the Avoidant, Depressive, and Narcissistic personality disorders.
    At the moment.... is it possible to feel a combination of 3 and 7??

    I've experienced nearly all of these levels of health... they all resonate with me... but at the moment I feel apathetic and honest at the same time. It's strange. I can't fully decipher what I'm experiencing at the moment.
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    I only know flawed people who are still worth loving."
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    I think I'm at level 8 of either 6 or 4, and can confidently say I was at levels 3 to 4 around a year ago. Maybe 5 through 7 throughout highschool. It's amazing how even-keel I was then. After a while, you start to feel like thing's have always been this way.

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